Jack Owens. Can't score when his gifted them. Feel sorry for the lad but you can't be sympathetic when it comes to professional sport. He is awfull

no discipline

Crazy thing is, two seasons ago we was super league champions. We shouldn't be talking about rebuilding as we should have built on that.

It should have give us the platform to build on but we put KC in the job, we got a awful backroom staff and then recruitment was awful.

KC two seasons has set us back years.

Another game which was there for the taking until our lack of fitness took over.

I will not watch the Saints again if Owens is in the 17.
I say Owens specifically because he is not super league standard, it is doubtful if he is championship standard but there are others in the back line who also should not be wearing the coveted Saints shirt. Swift, Owens, Dawson and McDonnell just don't make the grade and should be put out to the long grass. Wilkin, LMS, and Tasi should join them. Bring in two hard hitting props and a big second rower who can actually make a break and the pack is not too bad.


Oh yes I almost forgot; a replacement coach.

Owens needs a break from the wrath of the supporters, he looked completely broken after his mistake tonight.

Owens needs shipping out he is just completely out of his depth.

The is a lot of them just as bad.

Owens is a young lad who should be being looked after and urged along by a few older, experienced leaders....unfortunately, we have hardly any of them. Utterly rudderless. Wilkin is overwhelmed with responsibility imo.

I really like LMS's enthusiasm, but it is just that and he lacks 'game' intelligence as he gives so many silly penalties away.

Roby is quality but not sure he's a natural leader either.


4 losses on the bounce. KC and co can keep blaming injuries etc but Hull KR are shot to pieces as well but I can honestly see them turning us over next week.

Christ, that is young.

I don't think so, Owens is just awful and he seems to be selected no matter how bad apparently.....family reasons.

He and the average. ( but playing as well as he can) Dawson are the main reason for shipping points. Every team knows our biggest weakness is the left defence and obviously attacks on that side, knowing that if they don't drop the ball, they should be in for a try.

Overall though I expected this sort of score/result but was pleasantly pleased to see a much more expansive game from us until the match went away from us after about 50 mins. I liked SMD's contribution in attack.

I'd rather see us chancing it a bit like this than the one up and drop off. It certainly rattled the cats - for a while, until we lost our mojo once again.
With the Fages injury we are back to having no HB's. I wonder if Burns (I'm not a big fan) will be man of the match again for Leigh against Featherstone.


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Featherstone .

Does anyone know if our season tickets cover the middle 8's

That whole business is apparently a fabrication.