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| Quote: BackrowSaint "I don't dislike Tomkins but I do dislike Hock. He's a drug cheat and should never be allowed to wear representative colours of our great country again. He's a poor role model and an out and out thug. That's a topic for another day though, I certainly won't be booing any English players.'"
The issue with the drugs (which were recreational, IIRC) can be put to bed IMO. He made a stupid mistake and paid for it - two years out of a rugby league career is a pretty heavy price, and he's done his time on that score. His general demeanour on the pitch, however, does my head in. He's one of those players you just want to see get clobbered, but he's good enough to get away with it. It's irritating as an opposing fan, but then the game would be poorer without its pantomime villains (in fact, Saints could really do with one of their own at the moment). While he's playing for England I'll be putting any such issues aside, anyway.
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| Quote: BackrowSaint "I don't dislike Tomkins but I do dislike Hock. He's a drug cheat and should never be allowed to wear representative colours of our great country again. He's a poor role model and an out and out thug. That's a topic for another day though, I certainly won't be booing any English players.'"
how is he a drug cheat? Coke is not a performance enhancing drug unlike the hormone substance HCG that fat Cunningham was done for, yet i bet you and the rest of your fellow fans carried on cheering for him, what a pack of bitter hypocrites
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| Quote: Baked Bean Boogie "how is he a drug cheat? Coke is not a performance enhancing drug unlike the hormone substance HCG that fat (moderated) Cunningham was done for, yet i bet you and the rest of your fellow fans carried on cheering for him, what a pack of bitter hypocrites'"
You should be banned for language filter avoidance like that.
Where is the report button?
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| Quote: Baked Bean Boogie "how is he a drug cheat? Coke is not a performance enhancing drug unlike the hormone substance HCG that fat (moderated) Cunningham was done for, yet i bet you and the rest of your fellow fans carried on cheering for him, what a pack of bitter hypocrites'"
Incorrect, cocaine is listed as a performance enhancing drug due to some of it's properties by the WADA. The study and classification was carried out by people with far more knowledge in the area than you or me, to question that classification is frankly laughable.
Hock took this drug fully aware of what he was taking and suffered appropriate consequences.
Cunningham was cleared of any wrong doing as the drug had been administered to him unknowingly so that's not relevant at all. Coincidentally, if Hock had been cleared for the same reason I wouldn't have a problem.
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| How surprising , a new thread and already it's filled with Wigoon trolls who only a couple of years ago were so buried in the woodwork you'd have needed an army of beevers to find them.
As an Englishman I'll support England. Booing your own team is daft , unless the do something to deserve it i.e Hock has another brain fart and shoves the ref over (again)
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| If there is any booing of players (which I severely doubt will happen) then who says that it will be Saints fans? I'm sure there will be a lot of Warrington, Wigan, Widnes etc fans there too..
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| Quote: Albion "If there is any booing of players (which I severely doubt will happen) then who says that it will be Saints fans? I'm sure there will be a lot of Warrington, Wigan, Widnes etc fans there too..'"
I'm not sure there will be a lot of any fans there to be honest. Apparently the sales have been very poor, with numbers struggling to get to the five figure variety.
I expect anyone watching on TV will see a big gap of empty seats in the middle of the North Stand because Saints were only allowed to put them on general sale this week and they also happen to be the most expensive - something like £29!! Apparently Saints have had to do the RFL's bidding so far as selling tickets are concerned and that is the way internationals are run.
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| Quote: Albion "If there is any booing of players (which I severely doubt will happen) then who says that it will be Saints fans? I'm sure there will be a lot of Warrington, Wigan, Widnes etc fans there too..'"
True. I cant see Saints fans booing Tomkins and would like to think that no England players would get booed. Getting booed by rival fans is water off a ducks back for players but getting booed by your own fans is totally different. It is not at all constructive and could have a big effect on the players performance, never mind the team a whole.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I'm not sure there will be a lot of any fans there to be honest. Apparently the sales have been very poor, with numbers struggling to get to the five figure variety.
I expect anyone watching on TV will see a big gap of empty seats in the middle of the North Stand because Saints were only allowed to put them on general sale this week and they also happen to be the most expensive - something like £29!! Apparently Saints have had to do the RFL's bidding so far as selling tickets are concerned and that is the way internationals are run.'"
That's an appalling turnout if they only just make 10k.
No doubt many of those who can't be bothered to attend will also be the ones bemoaning the state of international RL and moaning when Langtree Park is overlooked in future.
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| We are there to support England tommorow. I hope there is no booing for any of the English players.
I dislike Sam Tomkins. However, as a RL fan I can't help but admire his huge talent.
I admire absolutley nothing about Gareth Hock.
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| Quote: RuddyScoosers "We are there to support England tommorow. I hope there is no booing for any of the English players.
I dislike Sam Tomkins. However, as a RL fan I can't help but admire his huge talent.
I admire absolutley nothing about Gareth Hock.'"
Not even his massive chin?
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| We are St Helens fans, not leeds fans so I dont expect any booing of opposition players
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| Quote: RuddyScoosers "We are there to support England tommorow. I hope there is no booing for any of the English players.
I dislike Sam Tomkins. However, as a RL fan I can't help but admire his huge talent.
I admire absolutley nothing about Gareth Hock.'"
I agree with you 100% and will be there to watch a great games i hope.
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| Quote: Saddened! "You should be banned for language filter avoidance like that.
Where is the report button?
It's the little red ! below the post.
No need now, seen it, and dealt with it.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I actually quite like Sam Tomkins, it's Gareth Hock who I will be booing.'"
I don’t understand your attitude, when we play you men, then yes the gloves are off, but when it’s your country, NO!. I’m a Pie through and through but it’s my flag first. It’s like it must have been in the Great War in the trenches. For the duration, we’re all in it together, and if you can’t see it that way then you should be ashamed to call yourself AN ENGLISH MAN...(if you are English that is, and if your not please stay away) "Come on the lads".
Rock 'n' Roll.
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