FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Manchester Massacre
55 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16170No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Oct 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
40218_1286737075.jpg
Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "Give over. Gaskell's decision-making is a million miles ahead of anyone else's at the club. Yes, he's made mistakes. But all kids make mistakes. It's impossible not to make them if you're lacking experience.

Let's recall for a moment that Gaskell's distribution and kicking played a crucial role in us getting to the GF. Let's also recall that prior to the start of last season [ihe had no experience whatsoever[/i. The plan was to introduce him gradually to the first team (like Lomax and Wheeler). I doubt the club had any intention to give him more than half a dozen games until the Eastmond debacle dropped on us. Given our (unexpected) success I'd say his performances bordered upon the miraculous. Especially when you recall that it took Lomax TWO SEASONS (at least) to achieve a sufficient level of performance and consistency to command a regular first team shirt.'"

Spot on.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach2931No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15252_1297730111.jpg
[color=#FF0000:dd3r80vu][b:dd3r80vu]I HATE ALL THE PIES[/b:dd3r80vu][/color:dd3r80vu]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15252.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "Give over. Gaskell's decision-making is a million miles ahead of anyone else's at the club. Yes, he's made mistakes. But all kids make mistakes. It's impossible not to make them if you're lacking experience.

Let's recall for a moment that Gaskell's distribution and kicking played a crucial role in us getting to the GF. Let's also recall that prior to the start of last season [ihe had no experience whatsoever[/i. The plan was to introduce him gradually to the first team (like Lomax and Wheeler). I doubt the club had any intention to give him more than half a dozen games until the Eastmond debacle dropped on us. Given our (unexpected) success I'd say his performances bordered upon the miraculous. Especially when you recall that it took Lomax TWO SEASONS (at least) to achieve a sufficient level of performance and consistency to command a regular first team shirt.'"


Agreed. I think we have all seen enough of Lance to see he is never ever going to do it as SO. Time to put him on the bench and bring back the Lomasgaskell partnership again.
Lance can come on and give wello or robes a break or even move robes to 13 for 10 mins and let Lancie boy play at 9.............tbh...........I'm not sure I care what the "coach" tries but anything will be better than what happened on Sunday.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1220
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
52916_1378593744.jpg
A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood. - George S. Patton In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity. - Winston Churchill It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. - General Douglas MacArthur Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52916.jpg



Oh dear. How expectations have dropped! icon_biggrin.gifOH:

The fact that so many defend him is laughable.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member34No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Aug 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: saint at wire "Agreed. I think we have all seen enough of Lance to see he is never ever going to do it as SO. Time to put him on the bench and bring back the Lomasgaskell partnership again.
Lance can come on and give wello or robes a break or even move robes to 13 for 10 mins and let Lancie boy play at 9.............tbh...........I'm not sure I care what the "coach" tries but anything will be better than what happened on Sunday.'"


I can't make a case for Hohaia to be in the side at the moment let alone at such a pivotable position at 9, even if it's for 10 minutes!! You can lose a game in 10 minutes!! It's like we are trying to find positions for him in the side. He doesn't warrant a starting place on current form so shouldn't be in the side. I understand people saying that Roby needs to be rested, but can we actually afford to take him away from 9 or even off the field? To me that just makes us weaker, we need our best player on the field.

RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7.gif
:7.gif



Quote: Top Saint "Oh dear. How expectations have dropped!
I'm afraid it's YOU who looks like the fool here. Gaskell is a kid. A kid who last season was thrust into the position of key decision-maker and tactical kicker despite the fact that he had no experience of first team football whatsoever and is still perhaps eighteen months away from being physically mature. Despite all this he was instrumental in getting us to the GF.

What kind of fan are you to demand we shouldn't "defend" any kid thrown into such an unenviable position? What kind of fan are you to think inexperienced boys are capable of matching the playing standards of grown men in the first team and if they aren't they should be tossed aside, ridiculed etc.? Sounds to me like you have a pretty twisted appreciation of what it means to be a supporter. Or you're a simpleton.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14094
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Jul 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2595.jpg
I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now. [quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point. Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg



Quote: Top Saint "Oh dear. How expectations have dropped!
Who's had a better debut season in such a key position with such little support?

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach1812No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2016Jun 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
fonds blancs/Snoopy.gif
:fonds blancs/Snoopy.gif



Fans:
They do my head in a lot of the time too.
Its embarassing but every RL team has a couple of thousand morons supporting them. Apart from London who only have about 500 fans all together.

I can't imagine what it must be like at a football match.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Quote: Top Saint "Oh dear. How expectations have dropped!

Or the fact that so many defend him shows that you are making attacks with no basis for those attacks. No one would have to defend him if he was not being attacked. The fact that people call into question his game and assess him as though he was Shaun Edwards or Sean Long at their peak, just shows how skewed some peoples view points are.

Take a look at other halves in the league in their first year and tell me how much better they were. Take Leon Pryce in his first year at Saints, an experienced player but new to first grade halfback play. His contribution was average at best, but this was covered by the skills of others around him.

Brough in his first few years was very hit and miss yet he is now the toast of some.

I've no idea if Gaskell will prove us all right or wrong, but the fact that the league leaders are showing an interest to replace their leaving halves just shows the quality that the best see in him. We've shipped out more halves from Saints in recent years than I can recall and at this rate every team in SL will have a Saints, half bar Saints.

Long, Ellis, Smith, Eastmond, now Gaskell.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach198No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



You can ball and shout as much as you want saying the players need to do better if there not good enough there not good enough and it will get worse even when brown comes in

RankPostsTeam
International Star1220
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
52916_1378593744.jpg
A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood. - George S. Patton In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity. - Winston Churchill It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. - General Douglas MacArthur Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52916.jpg



Quote: Billinge_Lump "Who's had a better debut season in such a key position with such little support?'"


That début season had such low expectations put on it that average performances seemed good.

Quote: Billinge_Lump "
Quote: Billinge_Lump "Actually never thought of that. My main area of concern with regard to Gaskell is his poor decision making at the line of attack. He has a tendency to take the wrong option on far too many occasions for my liking.'"


Give over. Gaskell's decision-making is a million miles ahead of anyone else's at the club. Yes, he's made mistakes. But all kids make mistakes. It's impossible not to make them if you're lacking experience.

Let's recall for a moment that Gaskell's distribution and kicking played a crucial role in us getting to the GF. Let's also recall that prior to the start of last season [ihe had no experience whatsoever[/i. The plan was to introduce him gradually to the first team (like Lomax and Wheeler). I doubt the club had any intention to give him more than half a dozen games until the Eastmond debacle dropped on us. Given our (unexpected) success I'd say his performances bordered upon the miraculous. Especially when you recall that it took Lomax TWO SEASONS (at least) to achieve a sufficient level of performance and consistency to command a regular first team shirt.'"


Any replacement coming in and doing an average job under those circumstances would look good. Also I think you place too much emphasis on his contribution to the point where you devalue the other players who took part in those games.The whole season was a backs to the wall grind of a season where the remaining fit senior players had to dig deep and bring the younger players through.

Gaskells true level was shown at the start of this season. As soon as fans expected performances he couldn't deliver.If he were the half back you all say he is we wouldn't have had such a bad start given that the first 6 games looked straightforward on paper. Also our revival began with his omission and the only team to beat us in that time is the Pies. Now I would not defend Hohaia for 1 second but Lomax started playing better when he was moved to half back.

Lee Gaskell may one day make a decent super league player but it won't be at Stand-Off.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1624
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60904_1539894659.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60904.jpg



Quote: Man of Steel "Lets all be honest the title sums up what happened yestersday perfectly. I went yesterday actually expecting us to get beat by such a margin and as it happened that feeling was made into reality, in honesty I thought the scoreline flattered us!!
Good post but you have not mentioned Rush's and KFC's role in this! Let us also not forget that you were on a good run until this match - tinkering is the key not wholesale changes.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member34No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Aug 2012LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Good post but you have not mentioned Rush's and KFC's role in this! Let us also not forget that you were on a good run until this match - tinkering is the key not wholesale changes.'"


It depends how you define "a good run". We were winning games but I think it was plainly obvious to the majority of Saints fans that if we came up against a quality side, like we did at the weekend then we would struggle. Yes we beat Leeds on the Monday, but I was one of the few that came away from the game pleased with the win but also dreading playing Wigan. We just can't reach that level at the moment.

You're correct tinkering with the squad is what is needed. It's not like we have a squad of 40 players and can change the whole team so we are limited with the changes we can make. Personally I'd only change 3 - 4 players to see what happens - it can't be any worse than the weekend. I'll do a side that I would like to see play Hull.

1. Wellens -
2. Gardner -
3. Wheeler - been in poor form since he came back from injury but it's either him or Shenton.
4. Jones - He has been "having a breather" in the U20's the last few weeks and hasn't been dropped. Time for him to come back into the side.
5. Makinson - if fit
6. Lomax
7. Gaskell - If only for his kicking in general play as without him our kicking game is shocking
8. Perry
9. Roby
10. Laffranchi
11. Soliola
12. Flanagan - if fit
13. Wilkin

14. Dixon
15 LMS
16. Clough
17. Puletua

People are obviously going to have different opinions but I think that side should be good enough to get the 2 points against Hull. It looks more balanced and moves the players who are in poor form away from the side. But like I said it's all completely objective.

In regards to the roles played by Cunningham and Mike Rush over the last couple of months. I think that they have both been forced into the roles they currently have at the club, not by management but by beliving that it was the best thing for the club at the time. They obviously love the club and have taken it on themselves to make the best out of a messy situation. With Royce going so early in the season they had no time to prepare themselves for the challenges that lay ahead, so they are basically having to learn on the spot and I think in the circumstances they have done really well. I compare their situation to that of Roy Hodgson the England football manager in Euro 2012. It's a free tournament for him as it's a free season for KC and Mike Rush - they aren't expected to create miracles they are being asked to steady the ship temporarily before future plans become reality. Us fans know this or at least I hope they do.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member14094
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Jul 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
2595.jpg
I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now. [quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point. Thick as pig swill.[/quote]:2595.jpg



Quote: Top Saint "That début season had such low expectations put on it that average performances seemed good.'"


Can't think of one then?

RankPostsTeam
International Star1220
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2023Sep 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
52916_1378593744.jpg
A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood. - George S. Patton In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity. - Winston Churchill It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. - General Douglas MacArthur Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_52916.jpg



Quote: Billinge_Lump "Can't think of one then?'"

My point is that I don't think he had a great debut season and the fact he looked ok was because of the low expectations at the club at the time. A lot of other players contributed to last seasons exceptional end result, yet you seem to believe that Gaskell was really the only player who contributed. That is a massive disservice to all the other juniors who played last season. Bottom line is that Gaskell will never make a stand-off with enough quality to be at Saints for years. He is a modern day Mark Bailey, OK untill someone better comes along.

P.S. I think Jamie Foster and Jonny Lomax both had better debut seasons than Gaskell. If you want me to go back further I will have to put my thinking cap on because my memory ain't what it was. Cue the jokes. icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Quote: Man of Steel " I'll do a side that I would like to see play Hull.

1. Wellens -
2. Gardner -
3. Wheeler - been in poor form since he came back from injury but it's either him or Shenton.
4. Jones - He has been "having a breather" in the U20's the last few weeks and hasn't been dropped. Time for him to come back into the side.
5. Makinson - if fit
6. Lomax
7. Gaskell - If only for his kicking in general play as without him our kicking game is shocking
8. Perry
9. Roby
10. Laffranchi
11. Soliola
12. Flanagan - if fit
13. Wilkin

14. Dixon
15 LMS
16. Clough
17. Puletua
'"


I can see the logic here as there are wholesale changes that could be made, but making changes across the board could lead to some tragic reults against lesser sides than wigan. This keeps our core stable whilst offering some key attacking changes. other would go further and move lomax, wellens, meli, wilkin but that would cause so much disruption that it would be impossible to see improvements in any one area.

That's why i've not minded too much wheeler and lance getting an extended run, you can't see true form from a few minutes of a match, but a run of 10 matches will give you a better idea of what a player brings to a team across easy games, hard games as a team member and with individual actions.

55 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
55 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.5361328125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
40m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
29s
Film game
karetaker
5639
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
2m
Salford
rubber ducki
12
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
3m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
3m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
483
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1276
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1397
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,695 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
 Sat 8th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Catalans
v
Leeds
 Sun 9th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
17:30
Warrington
v
Wakefield
17:30
Wigan
v
Huddersfield
 Thu 20th Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
Salford
v
Huddersfield
 Fri 21st Mar 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R4
20:00
St.Helens
v
Warrington
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
40m
Planning for next season
Leyther in n
178
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
29s
Film game
karetaker
5639
1m
Rumours and signings v9
NickyKiss
28895
1m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
197
1m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
MadDogg
4018
2m
Salford
rubber ducki
12
2m
Shopping list for 2025
Cokey
5577
3m
Game - Song Titles
Cokey
40732
3m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Butcher
5
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
5
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
jonh
5
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
12
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Butcher
20
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
483
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
533
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1276
England's Women Demolish The W..
1095
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1340
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1130
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1397
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1930
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2148
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2387
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1960
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2197
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2661
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2093
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2165


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!