Good to hear. I shall follow Rogue's posts about hhis lack of potential, his bad attitude and his love for Wigan with interest.

Cheers Dad.

I claim my £5.

young jack is a season ticket holder at saints and would never join wigan, believe me i offered a kings ransom to get him to widnes but to no avail, although we were definitely his second choice behind saints. look after him he could be the nearest player to AJM that the club has ever had.

how can you judge a lad a thirteen come back when he is eighteen and tell us then that he is better than lomax wheeler tomkins myler saints signs loads of world beaters at 13 but no many do anything

i'm not his dad or any relation just a scout who has watched him play...............but i am his biggest fan, he is a bit young to be my son but what a brilliant player and would love to have him signed up at widnes.........

because my friend i watched all those players at under 13's and this lad is better in fact far better................i wish he would have come to widnes but, he has chosen saints.

like i said find out when the lad 18 see if he can knock lomax and gaskell out of the half at saints i cant see it having saw these two and wheeler as juniors i cant see how he is far better

i also mentioned he is also far better than myler or tomkins. mate you have a massive star in the making, i tried to sign him for widnes but his love for saints swayed him your way, the lad has pure quality, enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whoa!

I qualified as a primary school teacher last year. Before I started my PGCE I went on the obligatory two week voluntary service in a local primary school. While there, I spent a couple of days in their reception class. The teacher asked me to help out with an 'art work', which basically involved covering up the children while they lobbed tennis balls soaked in paint at a massive piece of cardboard. They loved it. There were 28 children in the class. One stood out a mile. He not only lobbed the ball, but did it with absolute confidence, incredible accuracy and exactly the power required. I tested him by asking him to put a splat on the halfway fold. He did so perfectly. This little lad was 4 years old. He had fantastic hand-eye coordination and I fed this back to his teacher. He had a natural gift and could go on to make it in a sport involving the skills he had to offer - cricket, for example.

If the OP is written by a scout then they too will see raw talent in someone under 13. By that age they will be able to see some application of that talent in the way they play. Having coached under 10s in rugby league I know it is perfectly possible to separate the naturally talented individual from the rest. I'm quite sure the person writing the OP has had a similar experience to this and has been thrilled by it. It is thrilling to see a natural talent at work, no matter what the field. Whether the boy in question will do anything with his talent remains to be seen. But if the talent is there by nature, it will have shown itself by age 13.

Oh, and the other week there was an article on Jonny Lomax on the RFL website. Mike Rush was quoted as saying that Jonny was the best player in his age group at every stage of his development. So that's a present day, real life example of what I was just saying. Some people just stand out.

you may right but the amount of people who said over the years this lad a world beater gone on to captain england at 15s and 16s and then gone on to a super league club and as do nothing they is loads i like to judge at lad at 20 not 13

Well, if the poster is a scout then that will be slightly different from the regular posters because a scout wouldn't be able to do his or her job without being able to spot genuine talent. Obviously not all players that scouts spot will be real talents. No team is full of real talents. But sometimes there are players - people in any walk of life actually - who just stand out from the rest. They are the real talents. Those who do it as naturally as breathing. Maybe this poster has seen that in this young guy and it has thrilled him.

and it has my friend, i am certainly miffed that he has turned my club down but what the heck it bodes well for england, and i too watched lomax just as i have watched young jack fom under 9's onward but believe me this lad is better...........you lucky shower.

and now i will give you another youngster from the under 9's i have picked up, keiron marsh from thatto heath,