Ben Barba this and Ben Barba that.

Watch the try again there is one player who actually catches Tupou and for some reason decides to try an ankle tap despite being level. Its probably the worst attempt at a tackle i have ever seen in professional rugby league. His gonna be a great player and his defence in general has really impressed me but that was a massive brain fart from Danny.

Oh man talk some sense. Danny chased back and put 100% effort in to get there as did fages. He didn't get turned around and skinned for pace but a average super league player.

Why is it you can't admit it was shocking fullback play and embarrising for barba to be left for dead and he give up on it.

Would lomax have been skinned ? 100% no. Would Tommy have been skinned ? 100% no.

Barba been great player and probably still will be but he's not fit and shouldn't be in the 13. End of

Its not end of! at all its your opinion and fortunately i believe our coach doesent agree with you.

I was just pointing out the weirdest tackle attempt i have ever seen, its not a chase back his actually got the legs on Tupou and for some reason decides to go to ground.

FWIW on Barba. He excites me every time he gets the ball. Last week he stood Gelling up for his try. Ive not seen a player do that at Saints since Lyon. He will only get better.

He's shown some nice passes but his actual licj returns are pretty poor. I don't think he's beat a man yet and imo that's down to being so unfit. He runs across the pitch but hasn't got the pace or the fitness to do that at moment and on few kick returns he's lost ground doing the crab.

I just hope he can get some pace back because if he's lost it then his ability to make breaks are gone. His speed over 10 meters is what made the breaks in the nrl.

Why do people keep saying about Jamie Lyon? He s totally different player, totally different position and I don't know why keep mentioning Lyon and barba together. It was even completey different situation .

He's tubby at present & it will take a good off season before we see the real Ben Barba. He's not played for 10 months. Spoke to a Wigan coach in the week about Barba and he pointed out it's taken Tomkins 4/5 months to get back to anything like.

Have a look at the replay Pete, Barba was on the other side of the pitch making an attacking play with a chip over and run at the line just before Wakefield got the ball. Barba had made a fair bit of ground to get over the other side of the pitch towards Tupou, so Barba I think was very much in legs recovery mode and not set to defend.

Another excuse for barba haha. He got turned inside out and was left for dead

It all happens in fractions of a second but I think Danny checked his run because he thought Barba had the measure of Tupou.
Maybe he was trying to avoid a 2 man bounce off I dunno, his decision to check was fractionally before Barba pulled out which put him a step behind where he should have been and was left with a leg swipe as his only option of a challenge.
Tupou is a big fast thing but I reckon Barba would still have at least challenged if he was fit, he's had a long while out and he just isn't match fit yet, Barba isn't gonna pull up any trees this season, can't blame him for that.
I thought saints played well enough to stay in the game and at least give themselves an opportunity, but really, that was a gift from Wakey who were in full control for most of the game.
There aren't going to be gifts like that in the last few games, on the whole the game and the scoreline indicate just where these 2 teams are in the pecking order, good....but not quite good enough to trouble the big boys.
But, ya never know..

Skilful Stuff happens, a much slower Taia turned a much quicker Hardaker inside out and left him for dead as well.

I don't care about Hardaker. He plays for another team.

Send him back home then, obviously garbage and not a player Saints need or want by the sounds of it - we don't need Dally M winners in our team!!

Obviously not a sniff on Wellens if you can excuse the pun.

We should see what Jamie Foster is doing these days too, he'd fit right in with some fans I think.

Richardson should be demoted to the subs bench of the reserves for that attempted tackle. I can't remember seeing anything as embarrassing before

Regards

King James

Typical idiotic saints fan reply.

I've not said send him back. I've said I'm big fan of his. I said he will come good NEXT season when he's got some fitness back.

Anyone with half brain can see he's so unfit it's unreal and he's that unfit he's been a liability. I simply suggested he should have started on the bench and earned his right to play. He s basically walled into the team at the expense of lomax losing his position, Theo lost his position altogether against Wigan and now matty Smith lost his spot (rightly so).

You think it's tight he walks into the team in such bad condition? What must lomax be thinking? What must fages be thinking? What will Smith be thinking? I'd put my house on them not being to happy.

For example, just put yourself in lomax anid fages shoes. Lomax is fit (wasn't unfit as barba afyer two serious injuries), never drops high balls, never missed tackles and our main threat out the back. Tho really come on this year and in our top 3 players of the year. How would you feel seeing the level of fitness barba is at and getting picked?

Oh yes he did win the Dally M, he won it 6yrs ago now. In that 6yrs since he's walked away from the game, suffered with depression, used cocaine, had drink problem , won the grand final and was sacked, went to union and was released. If you think we are getting the 2012 Dally M winner then your deluded.

Todd Carney won the Dally M, should we get him?

I'm just thinking about the team and making too 4. I think having barba at fullback makes us a worse team this year and as I said, I think he will be good for us next year.