FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > No way back for Mose?
56 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star150
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2016Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Just wondering after a great front row performance last week, is there really any way back for Mose Masoe? I thought Amor, Savelio, Walmsley and Richards were great last Friday and never took a backward step! I wonder if Cunningham see's Masoe's injury as a blessing in disguise following the pack display? On the otherhand this could fire Masoe up for a devastating finish to his Saints career???

Thoughts?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner29202No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
6310_1310045241.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6310.jpg



Well worth a spot on the bench. Richards isn't a great player, Thompson should be in ahead of him. Mose should be on the bench and used properly he's a fantastic asset.

People would do well to not read too much into the Leeds win. They have won the Challenge Cup, which is an exhausting experience despite the relative ease of the win. They'll have spent the remainder of the weekend celebrating, then a large part of the week smooching sponsors and attending celebratory functions. They also rested some of their best players. We wouldn't have won that game if they hadn't rested those players, nor would we if they hadn't played in the Cup final when they did.

It also wasn't a superb performance. It was better, but with 15 to go we were hanging in there.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain324No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2020May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



It's down to him to fight his way back into the team now. No more complacency.

RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7.gif
:7.gif



After a season of nightmare injuries we are - finally - getting closer to being able to field a decent side.

Now the proposal is we should start dumping players? icon_eek.gif

I really don't understand some fans.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Would probably put Mose back in the 17 for this game at the expense of Flanagan and Thompson, plenty of running in the back row with LMS, Wilkin, Greenwood and Sav. I reckon Mose will respond to avoid the possibility of no longer taking part in the remainder of the season.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44308_1279480467.gif
Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time - "You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more" Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif



I'm told he won't play for saints again unless we have severe injuries. The reason being work ethic, attitude and for the benefit of team spirit.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Quote: St pete "I'm told he won't play for saints again unless we have severe injuries. The reason being work ethic, attitude and for the benefit of team spirit.'"




That maybe the mantra this week, but next week they may say without Walmsley and Savellio in the same team, we don't have enough forwards to match everyone else, so Mose needs to come back.

Or maybe we lost our way due to Turner leaving the middle of the park.

RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7.gif
:7.gif



We were arguably even more leaky without Turner so I really don't know what we're gaining leaving him on the bench.

Walsh's defence .... well, what do I need to say which isn't obvious?

As for Mose - we needed him tonight. Saints' weakness is always from the 20th minute onwards (both halves) against Cas. When their mobile (and fit) guys come at us we desperately need a big forward to take some of the zip out of their feet.

The thing is - Mose played an absolute blinder in the last Cas game in that precise role. His charging 30m run with a handful of minutes remaining (putting us in A1 field position) SHOULD have been the game. It certainly wasn't his fault we blew the match through stupidity.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2931No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2017Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15252_1297730111.jpg
[color=#FF0000:dd3r80vu][b:dd3r80vu]I HATE ALL THE PIES[/b:dd3r80vu][/color:dd3r80vu]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15252.jpg



Quote: Mugwump "We were arguably even more leaky without Turner so I really don't know what we're gaining leaving him on the bench.

Walsh's defence .... well, what do I need to say which isn't obvious?

As for Mose - we needed him tonight. Saints' weakness is always from the 20th minute onwards (both halves) against Cas. When their mobile (and fit) guys come at us we desperately need a big forward to take some of the zip out of their feet.

The thing is - Mose played an absolute blinder in the last Cas game in that precise role. His charging 30m run with a handful of minutes remaining (putting us in A1 field position) SHOULD have been the game. It certainly wasn't his fault we blew the match through stupidity.'"


I too think he is worth a bench place; it all went downhill a bit when Richards and Thompson came - especially Richards, he is not quite a big man but is slower than a big man.

I thought Flash did well when he eventually came on, whatever he gives (questionable) he gives 100%.

RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7.gif
:7.gif



The thing is - Mose's supposedly dropped because his "attitude" isn't right. And yet how many backs were turned resulting in tries tonight?

Ridiculous.

RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7.gif
:7.gif



Quote: Mugwump "The thing is - Mose's supposedly dropped because his "attitude" isn't right. And yet how many backs were turned resulting in tries tonight?

Ridiculous.'"


And this happened last game, too.

RankPostsTeam
Administrator25122No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
7.gif
:7.gif



Watching the game again it's staggering how many tries we gave away because players simply weren't paying attention.

The SKY team made a lot of Cas' excellent handling. But the truth is players wide awake and with their minds on the job of defending would have stopped two-thirds of their points.

I did attempt to count the number of backs turned returning the 10m but gave up after the 30th minute.

I've no idea what LMS was thinking - head down, running toward his own sticks whilst the Cas player was running past him with the ball. But, then, I've no idea what Jon Wilkin was thinking - in exactly the same position last match (not to mention giving away three silly penalties on the bounce).

If I'm Mose Masoe and Keiron Cunningham is telling me I'm dropped because of my "work ethic" or "attitude" then I'll be asking him to explain - in detail - why any number of senior Saints are keeping their jerseys.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Quote: Mugwump "

If I'm Mose Masoe and Keiron Cunningham is telling me I'm dropped because of my "work ethic" or "attitude" then I'll be asking him to explain - in detail - why any number of senior Saints are keeping their jerseys.'"


Its a good job Mose wash,t playing last night, he would have been held responsible for being lazy in defence and not doing enough carries. I always thought it was a team game and not an individual one!!!.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach485No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
41988.jpg
:41988.jpg



The whole thing about players retreating the 10m with their backs turned is a really good gauge of who has played or coached the game in recent years, and who hasn't. Every team is coached to turn and retreat the 10, as you can get back and set your defensive line much faster. You're also less likely to knacker your calves like if you back peddle every step. Go and watch the first set of the 2013 RLWC Final. Australia are the best team in the world, completely fresh, yet they're turning the backs to retreat and get set.

Should LMS have been paying attention until someone called they had secured the ball? Yes, but that's something completely different to thinking that following conventional wisdom (with good reason) shows a poor attitude.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach100
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2024Oct 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
34482.jpg
:34482.jpg



I think LMS was intent upon setting the defensive line in anticipation of the next phase, and in the (mistaken, but reasonable) belief that Burns had wrapped up the tackle.

56 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
56 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.59423828125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Round 16 London Home
Swoggy Loine
56
5m
TV Games - Not Hull
Jake the Peg
2031
8m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37893
10m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60080
13m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
MattyB
2353
23m
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3129
39m
Other Championship Clubs
Dr Dreadnoug
218
39m
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
56m
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
56m
Salford - Away
Jake the Peg
19
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9282
41s
The NRL Thread
YosemiteSam
182
44s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
2362
48s
Toulouse A
Rafa9
15
48s
2025 Recruitment
herr rigsby
30
52s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
MattyB
2353
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37893
1m
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
2m
Olly Russell 4 year deal
newgroundb4w
39
2m
IMG scores
FIL
32
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
2
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
Swoggy Loine
56
TODAY
Leeds
the-bearded-
15
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
TODAY
Batley Bulldogs H
Dr Dreadnoug
14
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
TODAY
Best Wigan Tour Team
MattyB
10
TODAY
Josh Bowden
Dr Dreadnoug
1
TODAY
Squad for Giants
Smiffy27
8
TODAY
Leigh h
apollosghost
60
TODAY
Meadows
BigTime
3
TODAY
July games
financialtim
2
TODAY
Salford - Away
Jake the Peg
19
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
268
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1397
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1103
Big Win for England Women Over..
842
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1084
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1186
Super League form rewarded as ..
1519
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1511
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1507
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1301
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1513
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1861
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1787
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1950
Hull FC Get Second Win By Beat..
1629
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M +12,982 80,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R18
 FT
Hover 
Canterbury
13-12
NZ Warriors
 FT
Hover 
Wests
28-40
Melbourne
 FT
Hover 
NQL Cowboys
20-22
Manly
     Womens Super League 2024-R7
 FT 
LeedsW
6-16
St.HelensW
 FT 
FeatherstoneW
0-50
WiganW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16

 
15:00
Leeds
16-16
LondonB
Martin Try & Goal
       Championship 2024-R14
17:00
Toulouse
v
Bradford
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16
17:30
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R18
05:00
Sydney
v
St.George
07:05
Canberra
v
Newcastle
     Womens Super League 2024-R7
12:00
Wire W
v
Hudds W
12:00
York V
v
BarrowW
       League One 2024-R14
14:00
Newcastle
v
Workington
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16
15:00
Salford
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2024-R14
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Doncaster
15:00
Featherstone
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Swinton
v
Widnes
15:00
Wakefield
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Barrow
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 6th Jul
SL
17:30
Hull KR-Catalans
SL
15:00
Leeds16-16LondonB
Sun 7th Jul
SL
15:00
Salford-Hull FC
Fri 12th Jul
SL
20:00
LondonB-Castleford
SL
20:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
20:00
Warrington-St.Helens
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
00:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 6th Jul
NRL
LIVE
Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL
LIVE
Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL
LIVE
NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL
LIVE
Leeds16-16LondonB
WSL2024
LIVE
LeedsW6-16St.HelensW
WSL2024
LIVE
FeatherstoneW0-50WiganW
Fri 5th Jul
NRL 18 Cronulla16-20Gold Coast
NRL 18 Brisbane6-14Penrith
SL 16 St.Helens6-8Castleford
SL 16 Warrington48-0Huddersfield
SL 16 Wigan24-6Leigh
CH 14 Sheffield28-0Halifax
Thu 4th Jul
NRL 18 Parramatta16-32Souths
Sun 30th Jun
CH 13 Barrow0-36Wakefield
CH 13 Dewsbury12-38Bradford
CH 13 Halifax38-18Whitehaven
CH 13 Widnes16-24Batley
CH 13 York10-18Sheffield
L1 13 Cornwall10-16Crusaders
L1 13 Newcastle10-44Midlands
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Warrington 16 406 213 193 22
Hull KR 15 383 201 182 22
Salford 15 295 288 7 20
Catalans 15 288 220 68 18
 
Leeds 16 284 286 -2 16
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 16 156 608 -452 4
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 13 486 142 344 26
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 13 341 218 123 18
Toulouse 12 332 174 158 16
Widnes 13 315 245 70 15
Featherstone 13 330 283 47 12
 
Batley 13 205 286 -81 12
Doncaster 13 237 325 -88 11
York 14 285 293 -8 10
Whitehaven 13 266 358 -92 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Barrow 12 203 339 -136 10
Swinton 13 260 332 -72 8
Dewsbury 14 168 419 -251 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Round 16 London Home
Swoggy Loine
56
5m
TV Games - Not Hull
Jake the Peg
2031
8m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37893
10m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60080
13m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
MattyB
2353
23m
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3129
39m
Other Championship Clubs
Dr Dreadnoug
218
39m
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
56m
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
56m
Salford - Away
Jake the Peg
19
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
37s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9282
41s
The NRL Thread
YosemiteSam
182
44s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
2362
48s
Toulouse A
Rafa9
15
48s
2025 Recruitment
herr rigsby
30
52s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
MattyB
2353
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37893
1m
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
2m
Olly Russell 4 year deal
newgroundb4w
39
2m
IMG scores
FIL
32
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
Deadcowboys1
1
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
2
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
Swoggy Loine
56
TODAY
Leeds
the-bearded-
15
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
TODAY
Batley Bulldogs H
Dr Dreadnoug
14
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
TODAY
Best Wigan Tour Team
MattyB
10
TODAY
Josh Bowden
Dr Dreadnoug
1
TODAY
Squad for Giants
Smiffy27
8
TODAY
Leigh h
apollosghost
60
TODAY
Meadows
BigTime
3
TODAY
July games
financialtim
2
TODAY
Salford - Away
Jake the Peg
19
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
268
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1397
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1103
Big Win for England Women Over..
842
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1084
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1186
Super League form rewarded as ..
1519
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1511
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1507
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1301
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1513
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1861
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1787
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1950
Hull FC Get Second Win By Beat..
1629


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!