To all those thst rammed it down my throat about how good saints pack is then I think your all mad. We've been second best in nearly every game for past 8 weeks.

We are desperate for some quality experinced props.

Realistically we've got one consistent, quality prop, Walmsley. We've got another quality prop when he can be d in Masoe, but he can only be d for about 4 matches a year. Savelio and Richards will mature but are both too young to be expected to be consistently solid enough IMO, and Amor is small, without the work rate he had last year.

Exactly mate. One on here even said its the best pack in the world! We desperatly need a top quality prop and not some reserve grade cook islander.

We need quality!

I think Thompson is our best prop after Big Al.

If I had to pick me four first choice props I would go with walmsley, Amor, Sav and Thompson (using Lms as Backrow).

I would never pick Mose again and have Richsrds as back up.

Behave , we need a prop before you lot . Please let us have first dibs on any going spare .

You can have Mose. He will give you 15 mins per game, he will make four carries and do 10 tackles (non one on one tho always 2nd and 3rd man).

Still state our backs are our major down fall. They do not get us on the front foot at all. Mcgilvray, Carney, Briscoe, Hall, Manfredi, Burgess, Charnley, Sio. The list is endless of wingers all better than than ours. Our half backs have no pace and just will not take the line on. That leaves us with a forward pack getting absolutely smashed week in week out because we are making next to zero breaks from our own half. It's just one man up sh@t rugby league and i for one am sick of it.

The is only Roby and walmsley any good in the pack. I do agree we have no strike power in the backs but if the pack ain't making the meters we don't get up the other end.

We just look poor in every department.

Percival is great, won't be long until he is playing for England.

Its hard for the forwards to make any great metres when they are constantly running on to telegraphed drop balls 15 metres from our own half, time after time. Watch Leeds, do you honestly believe Peacock and Leuluai are gaining 20 metres on every drive ? No but Leeds have got other options in there locker. Short balls to Hardaker, Spread wide to quality centres in Moon and Watking. Or Run it with Maguire. We have nothing.

We are the entertainers and do a rugby version of "Pass the Parcel", last week we were dumb this week we were Dumb and Dumber.

It's the halfbacks fault that our props look poor?

Quinlan is 6th in the league for average gain per carry. Swift is 12th. Turner is 22nd and Makinson is 25th. So out of the top 25 players in the league for metres gained per carry, 4 are our backs. Even Dawson is 42nd. Hardly indicative of the main problem being our backs not making any metres.