What will it be this week?

Heat
'We beat ourselves'
My middles were awful.
My edges were awful.
'If I comment on the referee I'll get fined.'

Or have I missed any other potential cliches?

Awful. He's taking us backwards. And before anyone jumps on me for making him a scapegoat I said when he was appointed it wouldn't work.

It will be that we beat ourselves.

I'm with you Pete. Cliche 2 gets my vote too.

TBF as a neutral you kind of did beat yourselves.

Penalties for high shots and offside. Early on in the game you had a scrum in their half and knock on from the first tackle. Another penalty and you go to kick to touch and fail to reach the sideline.

Some basic and sloppy errors really set you back. Sort out the easily fixable issues above and you'd have won, fairly easily probably.

James Childs & the Linesman both did their level best to get the win for Saints.

Pretty shocking today, just no life in them at all. Catalans are absolutely woeful defensively if you apply pressure and move them about a bit and we didn't exploit it at all.

We did the basics wrong today. Firstly, the pack were awful. All of them. Richards needs a rest or a while to re focus and they need to use Mose more. We were dominated today up the middle. Secondly the tackling. I'm sick to death of seeing so many missed tackles from us. Our defense was the reason we won SL last season, we were as tight as a drum towards the end of last season but KC has undone that already. We're a mess, there were several times today where we had three or four missed tackles in the same play. I'd bet we're well over 40 again.

KC is slowly destroying us, it seems his gameplan is early 2000's Bradford. One out mind numbingly boring rugby. Whenever we moved the ball wide today Catalans fell apart. They can't shift, they can't number up and they can't deal with any sort of pressure or movement. Yet we insisted on going one out all the time and thoroughly deserved to lose today.

One thing that was worse than our performance though was the referee's. He is simply shocking and Saints should formally complain about him. He changes games with his incompetent decision making, he did it so many times today we ended up with the right result as his game changing mistakes kept cancelling each other out. I wonder if he has problems with his eye sight or whether he's just incompetent. Either way there were several horrendous mistakes from him again, for both sides. The players have no respect for him or his decisions, hence the five or six back chatting penalties he gave. We were offisde a lot and penalised a lot, they were the same in defense and weren't penalised. He ignores forward passes and doesn't seem to understand what should be a penalty when it comes to the play the ball.

We lost by six points at a venue which has ALWAYS been a tough place to go. Admittedly we made some mistakes - and I don't agree with Cunningham's decision to play longer and lighter in the pack (if he wanted youth he should have used Savelio for the duration - at least he has the mass), but it was the INDIVIDUAL ERRORS which cost us the game.

Also, it's noticeable our scoring threat is significantly diminished now that Saints boo boy, Turner, is injured.

We're you striking the Platoon pose when you wrote this?

Looks like this place is about to go into creche mode. I think I'll leave for today so you can fling poo and snot at each other.

Wasting your time there mate, he got a book on excuses. In his mind we are the best team in RL.

By the way, I agree with you on Richards and posted it in the game thread. He needs taking out. He's struggling and making to many mistakes as a result. That's why Imo we need two props next year as we have Richards, Sav and Thompson who are very very young in terms of props and can be inconsistent. All three have not been as good this year as I expected. They have had there moments but they ain't reguler enough due to their age.

We have found our level as a team, just one of the average teams of Super League.

Thought it was a great game myself

As a neutral it was edge of the seat stuff.
Until Zeb went over for the last try I didn't have a clue who was going to win.

Under Cunningham Saints do seem to be playing a very basic style of play. But whilst that will cost you in some league games, come playoff time how many times can you recall teams throwing it around and being attackingly agressive in Grand Finals??? Saints style will suit the end of the year.

I'm seriously bored stiff watching this team.i honestly think we'll struggle getting in the top 4 playing this boring garbage.sorry