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| Obviously the first half a dozen games were a run in the park. Everything was going in Saints favour and KC was riding the wave.
A horrendous injury list (again) and three defeats on the bounce sees our coaching team with a bit of work to do.
It's amazing how quickly we can go from looking unbeatable to getting turned over at home by arguably one of the most underachieving teams in the comp.
I'm sure KC, Longy and Jamal can turn it around but they do have their work cut out. It's the first real challenge of their coaching tenure and it will be interesting to see what response we get from the players next week.
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| we need a halfback out there badly. We can only score if we are 1m off the line. Nobody to create anything or anyone who can make something of nothing.
Felt sorry for young Bailey today. Hull picked him out in the first half and looked like his confidence went.
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| A lot of the things that are going wrong are out of their hands though. You can't really legislate for having so many players missing at once.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "A lot of the things that are going wrong are out of their hands though. You can't really legislate for having so many players missing at once.'"
That team was good enough to beat a out of form poor hull side. Hull had players missing also.
Westerman, pryce, minnichelo and pae really did at job on us today.
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| We can,t really do a lot to improve the situation, its noted that our last 3 games we have produced a poor kicking game so this needs to be addressed first.
Lance was not so good today on the creativity front which means Roby had to come with something, but generally I thought Hull got there tails up when we struggled to get enough position after each set.
Hopefully our cavalary will arrive sooner that later with Walsh, Burns, Wilkin and Percival. Luckily lots of teams dropped points today and it looks as though Warrington are in freefall.
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| Quote: Judder Man "We can,t really do a lot to improve the situation, its noted that our last 3 games we have produced a poor kicking game so this needs to be addressed first.
Lance was not so good today on the creativity front which means Roby had to come with something, but generally I thought Hull got there tails up when we struggled to get enough position after each set.
Hopefully our cavalary will arrive sooner that later with Walsh, Burns, Wilkin and Percival. Luckily lots of teams dropped points today and it looks as though Warrington are in freefall.'"
That's all we can hope for. We need them back ASAP now. It's a worry that we could pick up more injuries with the luck we having.
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| Quote: St pete "we need a halfback out there badly. We can only score if we are 1m off the line. Nobody to create anything or anyone who can make something of nothing.
Felt sorry for young Bailey today. Hull picked him out in the first half and looked like his confidence went.'"
Hope it doesn't affect him in the long term as it's clear he's rated highly by KC.
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| Quote: SecondRowSaint "Hope it doesn't affect him in the long term as it's clear he's rated highly by KC.'"
Me too, it got to the point where he was just letting the ball bounce as he'd lost confidence.
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| Quote: St pete "Me too, it got to the point where he was just letting the ball bounce as he'd lost confidence.'"
It happened with that Murphy lad at Wigan didn't it against Leeds a few seasons back in the play offs. Don't think he's been played since then.
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| Regarding Bailey I thought a few senior players were as much to blame. Makinson in the first and quite a few other players in the second incident.
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| Quote: roader "Regarding Bailey I thought a few senior players were as much to blame. Makinson in the first and quite a few other players in the second incident.'"
I personally wouldnt have started with him on the wing. Soon as I got txt the team I knew hed be put under pressure.
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| We've lost all our brains. Lomax, Wilkin, burns, Walsh even wellens could have created something today.
Percival would have offered some strike.
We never really stretched Wigan or hull defensively. Just need a brain on the pitch to manage the team better.
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| Longy could have stood at 7 and just directed and kicked.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Longy could have stood at 7 and just directed and kicked.'"
At half time we mentioned the same thing, the other option was to swop Roby and Lance around.
Hopefully Walshy is available from next week onwards, he won,t be match fit so maybe a bench position if we carry on struggling.
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| There was a couple of tests for Keiron today which I think he failed on.
First of all we should not have ran with Turner and Lance in the halves, its obvious that combination doesn't work. If it meant bringing Hewitt in then so be it, we needed someone to direct play.
The second was starting Bailey on the wing. I felt so sorry for the kid. I hate the trend of giving players debuts on the wing, it's a specialised position and should be treated as such. Making your debut is hard enough as it is without being thrown into an unfamiliar position. If you're gonna play him, put him at Full Back with Tommy back where he should be, on the wing.
The third was going for the two 10 minutes from the end. In a 10 minute scramble for points, a team with halves always has the advantage, the writing was on the wall from that point forward.
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