i got told brown is off back to australia at the end of the season going to st,george.
also heard that just before this season started daniel anderson phoned the club enquiring about the coaching position....and they had not long signed a contract with brown!

The things I'd do for Daniel Anderson back!

Careful what you wish for - there's a reason he's been fired since he left here and become a peripheral figure on the coaching circuit. He had a great time with us no doubt but he inherited a team at the pinnacle of its ability with some very special players.

We don't have anything like that calibre of player now.

As has been said elsewhere, you can see from NB's demeanour yesterday that he is as frustrated as anyone. He is not telling players to go out and be pussycats, make unenforced errors and throw games away is he? Anyone who thinks a change of coach, within the current culture of alleged player power , would change anything is utterly deluded IMO. You HAVE to have the coach as the authority - what he says goes. If that doesn't exist you may as well bring in Jesus for all the good it would do.

No, but he's telling the press that Good Friday is only two points and that he tried to take the emotion out of the game. He's so laid back he's horizontal. No way is that kind of coach going to inspire a team to be aggressive and determined, or indeed to even know how to.

Hudds were just the same under Brown. They always bottled the big games.

Bring in John Stankevitch.

Whilst agreeing that the players must have within them motivation & a certain level of aggression, some responsibility for creating a culture of motivation & aggression within the playing staff must fall onto the coach.

Additionally, our tactics under Brown are all over the place.

We use players like Sia & Manu driving it in up the middle as cannon fodder, when we should be seeing them hitting the fringes. If opposition teams then load up defences wider to combat this, it weakens the centre of the pitch.

Our line speed at Saints has never been great (even under IM & DA), but we're now being shown up with it and it's costing us the momentum in games.

We have a very good halfback in Walsh, but we've quickly become overly reliant on him. Its like players aren't taking responsibility to create things themselves, just thinking "Walshy'll sort us out"

Roby is being played into the ground. He's our top tackler, and putting in 80 mins a week. As a result, he looks jaded and half the attacking threat of a player he was. He needs to be used more intelligently.

You mean like the Challenge Cup Semi Final in 2009. Which team did they beat on that day? I can't quite remember. I am pretty sure it was the cup holders and the team at the top of the league.

Anyway, every player and every member of the coaching team has to take responsibility for what happened yesterday.

There was no passion or agression. The players have to go out onto the field and give 100%. The simple fact is they didn't do it.

IMO Brown has one more game to get it right.

Lose on Friday and he's gone for me, and I bet the players miraculously lift their game if he does go!

No thanks!

He's go busy selling gear at car boot sales these days.

I'd rather bring in the wannabe Match commentator from redvee

There are 3 points Id like to make here:

1) Saints simply cant afford to sack brown mid contract, unless he leaves by mutual consent, they will have to pay him the remainder of what they owe him and from all accounts, he is on a tidy sum and is (or close to being) the highest paid coach in Super League. If hes on say £200k a year, thats £300k that Big Mac will have to find in order to show him the door if he left now. If we had that kind of money floating around, we would have paid a transfer fee and signed a proper stand off at the begining of the season.

2) If Big Mac does get shut, the cold hard fact is that we will have had 3 coaches in the last 5-6 years that the players "dont respect" and as such, dont play with any effort. WHO DO THE PLAYERS WANT????? What type of coach is it they are actually looking for? It smacks of the old boys brigade and looking from the outside, it seems that unless your face fits with the senior players, you quickly lose the dressing room and you are on a hiding to nothing. What coach anywhere in the world would want to come into that kind of environment? Unless there is a wholesale clearout of these players and staff, we will be in the same never ending spiral.

3) If Brown left next week, who would we replace him with? There is hardly a barrel full of unemployed world class respected coaches waiting in the wings to coach Saints that fulfil our needs, and the needs of the players (see 2 above). We will almost certainly end up with Rushy again and then it will be a case of the team coaching the team. Is that what the players want? To be totally unaccountable to anyone other than themselves? Im sorry, but thats not professional sport. If you worked in a shop and hated your boss, would that mean that you would P1$$ all over the customer when they walked in the door? You would still be your best smiley smiley helpful self while you are on the clock. The same should apply to the players. It is the fans that pay their wages and they should want to provide the best customer experience possible. By simply not putting any effort into their performance just because they have no respect for their boss smacks of amateurism.

If Brown is staying it's time he started doing the job he is being paid to do. He needs to show some authority and put some professionalism into the players.

They lost 25-16 to Warrington in the final though!