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Not been impressed with him at all so far. He was poor tonight in defence and attack (and he was run over by Watkins against Leeds) and we looked a far better unit with Jones at centre. I know he's a squad player and a Brown 'project' but I'd rather we left Jones there or used Percival and only used him against the likes of London

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Slightly unfair, I think he's played okay so far but was bad today and he wasn't the only one. Few weeks on dual reg or loan may be a good idea for him to get a bit of confidence back.

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Quote: No1 Saint "Not been impressed with him at all so far. He was poor tonight in defence and attack (and he was run over by Watkins against Leeds) and we looked a far better unit with Jones at centre. I know he's a squad player and a Brown 'project' but I'd rather we left Jones there or used Percival and only used him against the likes of London'"


I said to my mate at the Leeds game that he can't tackle when Watkins was skipping past him but gave him the benefit of the doubt of not much rugby and how strong Watkins is but looked poor again tonight.

Maybe he better as cover for tommy and swift but not at centre.

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He needs to be used sparingly. He can't defend for toffee, he didn't even know where he should stand when the Cas centre waltzed in early doors.

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Gone well so far (well, as well as could of been hoped for as a backup), but had a poor game today. Poor defensive choices and struggled to get any go forward.

Josh Jones proved he should be a first choice centre tonight. Instantly stemmed the left hand defence and was punching holes in attack - cas didn't know how to adapt.

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He's only had 2 games against the 2 top teams so far so I wouldn't expect him to do anything special' its a bit to early to write him off....that's Saddened job anyway.

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Quote: Saddened! "He needs to be used sparingly. He can't defend for toffee, he didn't even know where he should stand when the Cas centre waltzed in early doors.'"


Harsh. Left on his own against three attackers with players clustered under the post
and not numbering up. Apert from that he did ok.

The pack bar Sia and Walmsley were AWOL and awful in the first half.

That said Jones did really well in the second half.

Still plenty of mistakes in the second half but Wellens provided an extra half and everybody started to pull their
finger out.

LMS and Wilkin were real playboys in the first half and shown up for it.

Finishes from swift and makinson were really special.

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Dawson never a centre but there is talent there just needs time

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Worst centre on the pitch was Jordan Turner. Absolutely pathetic game from him and if he carries that performance on, he should be shipped out on dual reg. I'm critical because Jordan is usually consistent in his performances, however he was dreadful tonight.

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We certainly looked more dangerous with Jones at centre over Dawson. Dawson's carries are good out of dummy half but I haven't been impressed by him in any other facet of his game. In his limited game time so far, may I add.

Jones' work rate in defence is great at 13, but with Wilkin there too it seems unnecessary. Jones to play centre next week 100% for me

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Quote: LFC Saint "Worst centre on the pitch was Jordan Turner. Absolutely pathetic game from him and if he carries that performance on, he should be shipped out on dual reg. I'm critical because Jordan is usually consistent in his performances, however he was dreadful tonight.'"


When he was bad, he was very bad (especially in the first half) but I think he did well to not let his head drop, and kept trying to supply makinson (it's a difficult thing when ball keeps going to ground, to keep throwing those passes)

A better performance needed next week for sure - but I wouldn't be overly critical.

He was better than Manu in the first half!

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Quote: LFC Saint "Worst centre on the pitch was Jordan Turner. Absolutely pathetic game from him and if he carries that performance on, he should be shipped out on dual reg. I'm critical because Jordan is usually consistent in his performances, however he was dreadful tonight.'"


exactly.Turner put in a car crash of a performance.

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Quote: Saint from Prestwich "exactly.Turner put in a car crash of a performance.'"


I've never rated him. He does come up with some decent stuff to put the winger in, but he's so prone to errors and should be far more of a threat than he is.

Cas had some reshuffle in the second half though. Having watched some of it back, they had Mariano on the wing. He's a prop isn't he?

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Quote: Saddened! "I've never rated him. He does come up with some decent stuff to put the winger in, but he's so prone to errors and should be far more of a threat than he is.

Cas had some reshuffle in the second half though. Having watched some of it back, they had Mariano on the wing. He's a prop isn't he?'"


Mariano went to wing when Dorn went off after 70 minutes or so and Clare went to full back. Mariano is a second rower I think.

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75th minute Dorn went off. Mariano is a back turned forward. Bit like Chris Dean.

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