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Some craft and a little bit of class , especially near the line. Lomax's kicking game tonight has been poor again and we just look lost at times, hoping we can barge our way over or cop a lucky break.

Can't knock the effort or commitment of the lads but it's clear to see we miss a player like Pryce or Long to crack open the tight defences. Were not the only team in this position though, the goons looked very 1 dimensional without Tomkins sadly there arn't many top class halfbacks out there.

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Quote: No1 Saint "Some craft and a little bit of class , especially near the line. Lomax's kicking game tonight has been poor again and we just look lost at times, hoping we can barge our way over or cop a lucky break.

Can't knock the effort or commitment of the lads but it's clear to see we miss a player like Pryce or Long to crack open the tight defences. Were not the only team in this position though, the goons looked very 1 dimensional without Tomkins sadly there arn't many top class halfbacks out there.'"


Thought Roby was the guy who makes you tick and tonight he was ON the field. Your second half was like our first half last night....TERRIBLE!

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Quote: centralparkforever "Thought Roby was the guy who makes you tick and tonight he was ON the field. Your second half was like our first half last night....TERRIBLE!'"


We need a halfback , either bring one in or develop Gaskell. Roby is immense but he can'd do everything.

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Quote: No1 Saint "We need a halfback , either bring one in or develop Gaskell. Roby is immense but he can'd do everything.'"


Gaskell is already developed just overlooked. If the rumour is true that Brown is staying is Oz to coach Wests Tigers will you attempt to appoint Rush full time? If so Gaskell will be on his way.... to us.

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A scrum half.
A leader.
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Quote: centralparkforever "Gaskell is already developed just overlooked.'"

Damn right. Criminal negligence of a proper halfback.

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Quote: Mugwump "A scrum half.
A leader.
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And a coach.

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Quote: centralparkforever "Gaskell is already developed just overlooked. If the rumour is true that Brown is staying is Oz to coach Wests Tigers will you attempt to appoint Rush full time? If so Gaskell will be on his way.... to us.'"



That Gaskell to Wigan rumour is unlikely given you've just signed 2 halfbacks. He is still a little rough but he will only get better with good coaching and games in the first team.

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Hohaia was anonymous tonight. So called big game players should be at their best for matches like this and he once agin looked totally devoid of ideas and disinterested. Until we get a 6 that can play, Lomax will always be behind the 8 ball as he has all season.

Overall, we totally dominated the opening 49 but they hung in there and strangled our attack when we got anywhere near the line. The try before half time was crucial and we were totally outplayed in the second half, notwithstanding some more shocking video referee decisions. Waterhouse was immense and showed our board exactly the type of player you can get with an overseas quota.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Damn right. Criminal negligence of a proper halfback.'"


Am sure you guys on here know my views on Gaskell. I have been barking on about him all season. You are missing a trick with him in your under 20s, we will take him off your hands.

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Quote: The Chief "Overall, we totally dominated the opening 49 ..'"


The score on the 49th minute suggests we did not.

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Quote: The Chief "Hohaia was anonymous tonight. So called big game players should be at their best for matches like this and he once agin looked totally devoid of ideas and disinterested. Until we get a 6 that can play, Lomax will always be behind the 8 ball as he has all season.

Overall, we totally dominated the opening 49 but they hung in there and strangled our attack when we got anywhere near the line. The try before half time was crucial and we were totally outplayed in the second half, notwithstanding some more shocking video referee decisions. Waterhouse was immense and showed our board exactly the type of player you can get with an overseas quota.'"


Leon Pryce or Sean Long in our team today instead of Hohaia and we would have been out of sight by halftime.

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Quote: No1 Saint "Leon Pryce or Sean Long in our team today instead of Hohaia and we would have been out of sight by halftime.'"


Yes an no.

With Long, in his prime, we would undoubtedly have been better. However, Leon Pryce was consistently ineffective when asked to assume the mantle of sole playmaker. And Pryce played with better backs.

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Quote: The Chief "Hohaia was anonymous tonight. So called big game players should be at their best for matches like this and he once agin looked totally devoid of ideas and disinterested. Until we get a 6 that can play, Lomax will always be behind the 8 ball as he has all season.

Overall, we totally dominated the opening 49 but they hung in there and strangled our attack when we got anywhere near the line. The try before half time was crucial and we were totally outplayed in the second half, notwithstanding some more shocking video referee decisions. Waterhouse was immense and showed our board exactly the type of player you can get with an overseas quota.'"

You forgot to mention our defence, which was poor, just as it has been intermittently all season and that is because IMO we have some bloody lazy players in our team.

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Quote: Mugwump "Yes an no.

With Long, in his prime, we would undoubtedly have been better. However, Leon Pryce was consistently ineffective when asked to assume the mantle of sole playmaker. And Pryce played with better backs.'"


Got to say i agree with you here.I think people look at the period Leon was here with rose tinted specs,he was capable of moment of brilliance yet just as capable of going unoticed.

We got by with Leon at 6 as we had a brilliant 7,now we have a pair who try hard but just are not halfbacks and its up to Brown to change the team and the style we play.

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