FORUMS > St. Helens > Season Ticket Renewal - A Little Warning |
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16170 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
40218_1286737075.jpg Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg |
|
| I went to Langtree Park today to renew my season ticket. I pay by direct debit. I was told that if I renewed today - to pay by direct debit again for the 2013 season - I would have to pay concurrent with my present direct debit until the year is up on my present direct debit. In other words, I would be paying two direct debits at the same time until the 2012 one is finished. While I was very early in getting signed up last year and so this would only involve one month's double payment, some people signed later and so may have to pay two DDs for a few months if they want to get the discount. Apparently Saints are doing this in order to 'encourage' everyone to start their DDs at the same time. However, so far as I can see there is no warning of this on any of the promotional material.
I hadn't given any thought to this before I went to the stadium as I just assumed it would be like delayed payments on furniture or something: the new DD would kick in when the old was done, even though I signed up for the new one now. Other people may be more clued up than me but for those who aren't I just thought I'd let them know so that they are prepared before they renew.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| Quote: SaintsFan "I went to Langtree Park today to renew my season ticket. I pay by direct debit. I was told that if I renewed today - to pay by direct debit again for the 2013 season - I would have to pay concurrent with my present direct debit until the year is up on my present direct debit. In other words, I would be paying two direct debits at the same time until the 2012 one is finished. While I was very early in getting signed up last year and so this would only involve one month's double payment, some people signed later and so may have to pay two DDs for a few months if they want to get the discount. Apparently Saints are doing this in order to 'encourage' everyone to start their DDs at the same time. However, so far as I can see there is no warning of this on any of the promotional material.
I hadn't given any thought to this before I went to the stadium as I just assumed it would be like delayed payments on furniture or something
That may put a few off having to pay double, especially for some hard up familes.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2931 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
15252_1297730111.jpg [color=#FF0000:dd3r80vu][b:dd3r80vu]I HATE ALL THE PIES[/b:dd3r80vu][/color:dd3r80vu]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15252.jpg |
|
| Quote: SaintsFan "I went to Langtree Park today to renew my season ticket. I pay by direct debit. I was told that if I renewed today - to pay by direct debit again for the 2013 season - I would have to pay concurrent with my present direct debit until the year is up on my present direct debit. In other words, I would be paying two direct debits at the same time until the 2012 one is finished. While I was very early in getting signed up last year and so this would only involve one month's double payment, some people signed later and so may have to pay two DDs for a few months if they want to get the discount. Apparently Saints are doing this in order to 'encourage' everyone to start their DDs at the same time. However, so far as I can see there is no warning of this on any of the promotional material.
I hadn't given any thought to this before I went to the stadium as I just assumed it would be like delayed payments on furniture or something
It seems a little harsh to say the least.
Surely the idea is to get people to commmit to a season ticket for next year (around 6 months time). That being the case, and they are simply not short of dosh (perish the thought), then there is no earthly reason why the new direct debit for next year can't start the month after this season's direct debit payments finish.
I'm suggesting that just for a change, they haven't thought this through and that the intention to get all (including DDM payers) to renew early has given rise to unintended consequences. There is no reason why they can't instruct their bank to start collecting payments at a date in the future. I think a letter to whoever is in charge of the marketing or Eammon (in the absence of any CEO) may do the trick as the club is OK for cash at present.
Good luck.
I pay in one go.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Chairman | 27757 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2021 | May 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
34_1430670222.jpg [url=http://wp.me/p1ImSi-n8:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]An Ode to Sepp Blatter[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=http://wp.me/s1ImSi-dadbod:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Dadbod[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=http://wp.me/p1ImSi-mK:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Next In Line To The Throne[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=https://mcclennan.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/st-helens-and-a-fitting-end-to-a-season-of-unsung-heroes/:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]St Helens and a Fitting End to a Season of Unsung Heroes[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=https://twitter.com/cinematicsoul:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Follow my wisdom on Twitter[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]
[url=http://wp.me/p1ImSi-aA:8gr6akfh][b:8gr6akfh]Top 100 films of the 00s - The Top 5[/b:8gr6akfh][/url:8gr6akfh]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_34.jpg |
|
| They've done it now because traditionally July and August are the weakest months for income at the club. Merchandising and attendances dip during these months due to holidays and the fact that it's closer to the end of the season now. It's done to try and bring some extra money into the club at a time when it's needed rather than at a time which is convenient to AN Other.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 2931 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Mar 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
15252_1297730111.jpg [color=#FF0000:dd3r80vu][b:dd3r80vu]I HATE ALL THE PIES[/b:dd3r80vu][/color:dd3r80vu]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15252.jpg |
|
| Quote: McClennan "They've done it now because traditionally July and August are the weakest months for income at the club. Merchandising and attendances dip during these months due to holidays and the fact that it's closer to the end of the season now. It's done to try and bring some extra money into the club at a time when it's needed rather than at a time which is convenient to AN Other.'"
What about the £6M+ of cash put into the club at the back end of 2011? Its not all gone on the fit out.
At the end of Oct 2011 there was £860K in the bank.
Perhaps its Cladding money?
No, I just think they didn't realise the effect which is very easily solved.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8991 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
|
| But if these are lean months for cash, moving everybody forwards will just make other months lean for cash. In the end the cash comes in when it comes in. The best they can hope from this is a little extra interest.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| I think people who think its unfair should write to saints stating how they feel. It's pretty tough for familes who are struggling at the moment to be paying two drift debits.
In effect, this could cost saints season tickets as some just can't afford it.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16170 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jul 2008 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2016 | Oct 2015 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
40218_1286737075.jpg Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg |
|
| Quote: McClennan "They've done it now because traditionally July and August are the weakest months for income at the club. Merchandising and attendances dip during these months due to holidays and the fact that it's closer to the end of the season now. It's done to try and bring some extra money into the club at a time when it's needed rather than at a time which is convenient to AN Other.'"
The woman behind the counter said they have done it because they want all the DDs to start at the same time. Regardless of the reason they have not advertised this in their promotional literature and it could hamper some people from being able to take advantage of the renewal offers. If that is the case, fewer people will opt for the DD facility which will mean fewer season tickets. I certainly can't afford to pay a lump sump. Without the DD option I don't get a season ticket. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me.
|
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| Quote: SaintsFan "The woman behind the counter said they have done it because they want all the DDs to start at the same time. Regardless of the reason they have not advertised this in their promotional literature and it could hamper some people from being able to take advantage of the renewal offers. If that is the case, fewer people will opt for the DD facility which will mean fewer season tickets. I certainly can't afford to pay a lump sump. Without the DD option I don't get a season ticket. A lot of people will be in the same boat as me.'"
And that's the reason as many people as possible should write/email saints to complain, I honestly think its going to cost saints a few quid as some people just can't afford to pay two direct debits.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 8991 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Sep 2009 | 15 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Sep 2024 | Jun 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
47035_1386433761.gif We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
|
| I can't see the point as a business to become less flexible for your customers, sure you may want to encourage people to pay in one particular way, but to make sure you get the business there should be other options for methods of payment, to make sure you get the sale.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| Quote: bewareshadows "I can't see the point as a business to become less flexible for your customers, sure you may want to encourage people to pay in one particular way, but to make sure you get the business there should be other options for methods of payment, to make sure you get the sale.'"
The fact they haven't stated this on the promo that was sent out is wrong on all levels.
It should be stated very clearly!
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 32353 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
|
| Quote: McClennan "They've done it now because traditionally July and August are the weakest months for income at the club. Merchandising and attendances dip during these months due to holidays and the fact that it's closer to the end of the season now. It's done to try and bring some extra money into the club at a time when it's needed rather than at a time which is convenient to AN Other.'"
Looking from the outside with a completely neutral view (await the abuse) it looks as though things are not maybe as rosy as Mr. Teflon would have you all believe.
However it'll be 12 or maybe 24 months before we will all know the reality.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Looking from the outside with a completely neutral view (await the abuse) it looks as though things are not maybe as rosy as Mr. Teflon would have you all believe.
However it'll be 12 or maybe 24 months before we will all know the reality.'"
Why wouldn't it be?
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Board Member | 32353 | |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2002 | 22 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
|
| Quote: St pete "Why wouldn't it be?'"
Accounts submitted early.
Trying to get cash into the club early.
Why the change?
Just questions?
As I said the answers won't become apparent for 12 - 24 months.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 16963 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2017 | Oct 2017 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
|
| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Accounts submitted early.
Trying to get cash into the club early.
Why the change?
Just questions?
As I said the answers won't become apparent for 12 - 24 months.'"
I don't think the is anything to it if I'm being honest, it doesnt hurt to start season ticket promo early.
|
|
|
|
|
|