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| If you haven't seen it already check out
NRL Ben Barba / Josh Morris - 2012 Try Of The Year
On YouTube.
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| I've seen it via Twitter.
It'll no doubt be on Sky's NRL Fulltime later in the week.
Ben Barba is a special player IMO.
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| We can but dream.
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| I prefer sloth and dedication.
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "I prefer sloth and dedication.'"
Don't let's get onto Rogues again
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| I bet he's not safe under a high ball though
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| Its like watching Preccy again (and he was safe under the high ball).
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| Play like that and I dont care about a few dropped balls.
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| Quote: matt_p "Play like that and I dont care about a few dropped balls.'"
A couple of dropped balls cost us at home to catalans......
Much prefer a full back to be defensively solid and if they can attack too.....great. Don't want the brent webb types who can't defend for toffee.....
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| That's where SL and NRL have priorities backwards. In the NRL having a good attacking full back is almost priority number one. Mind you, they are also expected to be sound in defence (something Barba wasn't at times last year).
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| Quote: wertyuio "A couple of dropped balls cost us at home to catalans......
Much prefer a full back to be defensively solid and if they can attack too.....great. Don't want the brent webb types who can't defend for toffee.....'"
So you wouldn't play Tomkins there then? He's missed a few bombs and tackles this year.
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| No. He is a terrific player and I'd like to see him have a season or two as a dedicated stand off. In the current wigan side, he is seldom tested defensively and there fore has loads of time to attack or join the line as he sees fit. See the difference when he's England's full back and we play Australia or New Zealand....and this is not having a go at him as a player as such, just the belief that he is a world class full back.
Look at the cup semi last year: He had a poor game defensively (from recollection from some good kicks by St helens). This gave him more work defensively, with which he didn't always cope well but more noticeable was his lack of attack in that game.
Suppose its down to one's belief in whether a full back should have better attacking capabilities than defensive.
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| I don't think its that - its more that being defensively secure is a minimum requirement, and that the difference between a good and great full back is what they bring to the attack. As for Tomkins, for all his supposed weakness, he doesn't get shown up very often which may be down to good coaching of defenders around him, but in any event I'd take him in a heartbeat over any other SL fullback even if he does drop the odd bomb.
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| Quote: wertyuio "Suppose its down to one's belief in whether a full back should have better attacking capabilities than defensive.'"
What do you believe then? Is defensive solidity first on the sheet for that spot?
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| A full back's primary role is defensive. If he is also excellent in attack he becomes world class. A bad defensive full back is no use to any team!
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