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I`m coming back to the UK to watch a few games and have been thinking about England best 17. This is the 17 that can take on the Kiwis and the Aussies. See below and post yours:-

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Micheal Shenton
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Johnny Lomax
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Gareth Carvell
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Chris Heighington
13. Sean O Loughlin

14. Kevin Sinfield
15. Adrian Morley
16. Eorl Crabtree
17. Danny Brough

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I'd like to see Jack Reed in the England team but I don't think he'll choose us over Australia. He's been awesome this year for the Broncos. He's big, strong, good tackler, good hands and quick.

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probably go with something like this

S. Tomkins
T Briscoe
K Yeamon
C Bridge
R Hall
J Lomax
D Brough
J Peacock
J Roby
J Graham
B Westwood
G Ellis
S O'loughlin

subs: Carvell, Wilkin, Crabtree, J Tomkins

With the bench in particular i have gone for players who i think can make an impact. Wilkin an Tomkins provide mobility while Carvell and Crabtree provide size.
No Morley due to his eye injury and lack of form this year.

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1. S.Tomkins
2. Hall
3. J.Tomkins
4. Watkins
5. Jones-Bishop
6. Widdop
7. Lomax
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Morley
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. OLoughlin

Peacock
Carvell
Wilkin/Westwood
Robinson/Brough

Whats the injury situation with Ellis/Burgess/Widdop???

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S. Tomkins
T Briscoe
K Yeamon
M Shenton
R Hall
J Lomax
D Brough
J Peacock
J Roby
J Graham
J Tomkins
G Ellis
S O'loughlin

subs: Carvell, Robinson, Crabtree, B.Westwood

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1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kirk Yeaman
4. Jack Reed/Ryan Atkins
5. Josh Charnley/Jamie Foster
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Jonny Lomax
8. Garreth Carvell
9. James Roby
10. James Graham (c)
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Ben Westwood
15. Eorl Crabtree
16. Andy Lynch
17. Willie Manu (if still available for England)

Struggled between Charnley and Foster as Charnley has been very good this season (possibly slightly better of the 2), but dont think there is too much between them and Foster is a very reliable goal kicker which would help. Think either would do a good job and be nice to see one of them given chance to shine.

Morley has missed a lot through injury this season and not been at his best, and Peacock has had a poor season for his club from what I've seen so shouldnt make the team. Both of them are now too old imo and its time to move on and build for the future instead of sticking with the old heads, there would still be enough experience in there to help the younger players but stand a better chance picking form players

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Quote: The Chair Maker "snip'"
Interesting that you've ogne for Peacock. Most posters wouldn't stick with him given his season?

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1. Sam Tomkins
2. Jermaine McGilvary
3. Leon Pryce
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Tom Briscoe

6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough

8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Andy Lynch
11. Jon Wilkin
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Gareth Carvell
15. Ben Westwood
16. Eorl Crabtree
17. Luke Robinson / Jonny Lomax

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Widdop - Played for Storm last weekend against Newcastle and looked sharp after returning from injury at stand off.

Ellis - Had an awesome game for the Tigers against St.George in first round of play offs. Played on right edge running of marshall and Lui, Heighenton plays on the left edge - had a good game also.

Burgess - Earlier in season on the Footy Show said he would be back for playoffs. Unfortunately the South Sydney Rabbitohs did not qualify. So unsure if he is training to be fit for four nations or having long off season getting ready for season 2012/2013.


Good call on Willie Manu, could be a bolter to replace Burgess if as I suspect is not fit.

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Willie Manu would be great.
I rate him very highly.

Very hard to tackle, makes some great breaks.

Bring him to Saints PLEASE

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Tomkins, Briscoe, Bridge, Atkins, Hall, Widdop, Lomax, Graham, Roby, Peacock, Ellis, Westwood, O' Loughlin. Subs: Sinfield, Wilkin, Carvell, Crabtree.

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Quote: rally2001 "I'd like to see Jack Reed in the England team but I don't think he'll choose us over Australia. He's been awesome this year for the Broncos. He's big, strong, good tackler, good hands and quick.'"


If he's good and qualifies we should be looking to get him onboard ASAP, The Aussie's have been doing it for years with Kiwi's and Islander's so we just need to do the same. Picking players from the worlds premier RL comp will only help us as a team and hopefully bring on the other lads.

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Anybody else heard Gareth Ellis wont be playiing due to knee op??

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Quote: saintcj "Willie Manu would be great.
I rate him very highly.

Very hard to tackle, makes some great breaks.

Bring him to Saints PLEASE'"


Hands off, he's ours!!

I think that we would be wrong to pick him, although saying that, there is nobody in the england team that plays like him and i think he would make an impact against the Aussies. Him, Yeaman and Briscoe on the left would be dangerous

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1.tomkins
2.hall
3.reed
4.yeamen
5.briscoe
6.widdop
7.brough
8.graham
9.roby
10.peacock
11.westwood
12.ellis
13.oloughlin
subs
14.carvell
15.morley
16.robinson
17.tomkins

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