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| Matt Gidley 2010 Overseas Quota - Retiring
Nick Fozzard 2010 - Hull KR - Retiring
Maurie Fa'asavalu 2010 foriegn trained- Signed for Harlequins RU
Kieron Cunningham 2010Homegrown - Retiring
Ste Tyrer 2010 Homegrown - Signed for Salford
Matty Smith 2010 Homegrown - Signed for Salford
Paul Wellens 2010 Homegrown
Francis Meli 2010 Overseas trained
Chris Flannery 2010 Overseas Quota
Bryn Hargreaves 2010 - Wigan Warriors
Paul Clough 2010 Homegrown
Ade Gardner 2011 Homegrown
Loen Pryce 2011 - Bradford Bulls
Kyle Eastmond 2011 Homegrown
James Graham 2011 Homegrown
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Gareth Frodsham 2011 Homegrown
Chris Dean 2011 Homegrown
Lee Gaskell 2011 Homegrown
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Matty Ashurst 2012 Homegrown
Gary Wheeler 2012 Homegrown
Andrew Dixon 2012 Homegrown
Jonnny Lomax 2012 Homegrown
Shaun Magennis 2012 Homegrown
Jack Bradbury 2012 Homegrown
Jamie Foster 2013 Homegrown
Paul Johnson 2013 Homegrown
Out of the players that are out of contract i would keep wellens on a two year deal, release meli, keep flannary on a one year contract, keep bryn on a two year contract and keep clough on a long term contract (4-5 years)
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| Hargreaves is rumoured to be leaving. Clough, Wellens, Meli and Flannery have been rumoured to be signing new deals.
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| bryn hasnt been rumored it just people say he shouldnt get one
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| Check out the Meli and Flannery thread... Rumoured.
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| To be honest, the players out of contract at the end of 2010 ain't great players. If I could replace them I'd only offer clough a new deal but if the is nothing out there to replace them with then I'd only offer one year deals.
Flannery - he's played well this year and become a senoir member of the squad, he's a grafter but don't offer enough threat with the ball. I'd offer him a one year deal.
Meli - To be honest meli plays well nearly every year. He's one of a few in our squad that can bust a tackle. He's terrible defending any type of kick and can lose us games with his brain farts. He's showed up pretty well in the centre but worry teams will target him. I'd offer him one year deal.
Clough - I like clough. He's tough, never takes a back step, hard worker and has great leg drive. IMO he's not big enough for a prop and not mobile enough for a backrow but makes up for all that with heart. He don't offer much with the ball( like all our backrows). He is a great team player and I'd offer him a 3yr deal.
Bryn - He ain't a great player, he's to small, can't bust a tackle, don't see him put any big hits in but he's never ever let saints down! He's steady and just gets on with his job. For some reason I seem to like bryn. If the is nothing out there to replace bryn with then I'd give him a 1yr deal.
Wello - Its a hard call with wello, he's been one of the outstanding players in super league for many years. He is safe as houses at the back and would die for saints. We all know his pace is a problem but I feel he's to important to the team to not offer him a deal. His support play over the last month has been outstanding! I'd offer a 1yr deal with the option of another year.
If we could replace any of the above with better players then I would but if nothing out there then it's better to keep them and depend even more on our young lads.
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| I`d keep Flannery over meli if we are looking at someone to play centre.
But meli can cover wing very effectively.
I wouldn't keep both.
Hargreaves would have to come very cheap and i think will get a deal purely on the basis that we are losing a couple of props.
Clough is a keeper.
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Wello - Its a hard call with wello, he's been one of the outstanding players in super league for many years. He is safe as houses at the back and would die for saints. We all know his pace is a problem but I feel he's to important to the team to not offer him a deal. His support play over the last month has been outstanding! I'd offer a 1yr deal with the option of another year.'"
Wello is the tricky one for me and I can't disagree with that assessment.
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| I'd give Flannary and Meli one year deals, Wellens and Hargreaves two year deals and Clough a long term deal.
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| Quote: St pete "Wello - Its a hard call with wello, he's been one of the outstanding players in super league for many years. He is safe as houses at the back and would die for saints. We all know his pace is a problem but I feel he's to important to the team to not offer him a deal. His support play over the last month has been outstanding! I'd offer a 1yr deal with the option of another year.'"
No doubt about his talent and commitment, but please don't make the same mistake as with Cunningham, and the club and supporters have to share the blame, that is become a liability, especially to younger players, we have had it if Wellens is not on the pitch!
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| Quote: jaybs "No doubt about his talent and commitment, but please don't make the same mistake as with Cunningham, and the club and supporters have to share the blame, that is become a liability, especially to younger players, we have had it if Wellens is not on the pitch!'"
Cunningham has not become a liability at all! He still does a great job and we miss him when he's off the pitch.
I would only offer wello a 1yr deal witha view to a extra year if he plays well in 2011.
The end of next year will be huge for saints. Kyle eastmond, leon pryce, james graham and tony p are all off contract.
Kyle and graham will require big deals to keep them at saints, i just hope a pay rise and the lure of playing at the new saints stadium will keep them at saints.
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| Quote: St pete "Wello - Its a hard call with wello, he's been one of the outstanding players in super league for many years. He is safe as houses at the back and would die for saints. We all know his pace is a problem but I feel he's to important to the team to not offer him a deal. His support play over the last month has been outstanding! I'd offer a 1yr deal with the option of another year.'"
I don't think it's a hard call where Wello is concerned at all, for just the reasons you state. We need his experience and skill while we bring in young players and his positional ability more than compensates for his lack of pace for most of every match. Renewing Wello's contract is a no brainer for mine.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I don't think it's a hard call where Wello is concerned at all, for just the reasons you state. We need his experience and skill while we bring in young players and his positional ability more than compensates for his lack of pace for most of every match. Renewing Wello's contract is a no brainer for mine.'"
As i said, i WOULD offer wello a new deal as he IMO is still very very important to saints.
I think wello is close to the end of playing at the top level, so i would only offer him a 1yr deal with the view of another year depending on how he goes next year.
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| Quote: St pete "As i said, i WOULD offer wello a new deal as he IMO is still very very important to saints.'"
Yes. And I was agreeing with you. So what are you getting your knickers in a twist for?
All the rest I'm not sure on although I'd probably sign Clough for a couple more years as he's a major grafter in our squad, and a good grafter too.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Yes. And I was agreeing with you. So what are you getting your knickers in a twist for?
All the rest I'm not sure on although I'd probably sign Clough for a couple more years as he's a major grafter in our squad, and a good grafter too.'"
Im like you, i don't wear knickers
So what you not sure about ?
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| why does anybody want to keep hargreaves?? he is i.m.o mediocre...
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| Quote: chris_joynt's_barber "why does anybody want to keep hargreaves?? he is i.m.o mediocre...'"
He is a squad player but because maurie has been out all year he's become a regular starter.
He never let's us down and IMO is a good player to have at the club.
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