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how did they play

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Well by the sounds of the radio coverage. Wheeler got on the scoresheet.

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Armstrong was put under a lot of pressure from clever kicks by the Giants halfbacks - some he dealt with very well - some he needed some major help with. TBH he is showing a fair amount of potential but is a while from being ready.

Wheeler got put out on the wing and it showed that he was playing out of position - but he definately showed fantastic footwork to take his try. I would have thought that his game is taking on the line and causing some chaos - but his chances at half back will hopefully be limited this season - but again there was enough there in that try to suggest he has a very good attacking game in him

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Armstong defended a few kicks very well. Hurt his arm in one tackle second half but seemed to get over it. Not many ball running chances. Did drop one pass second half. Wheeler on for Gardner second half and the only pass he got he scored from.

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Armstrong was excellent under the high ball. He was plucking them out of the air and not waiting for the ball to drop like some other players do.

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Quote: McClennan "Armstrong was excellent under the high ball. He was plucking them out of the air and not waiting for the ball to drop like some other players do.'"

The opposite of Meli then.

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Quote: St. Etrigan "Armstrong was put under a lot of pressure from clever kicks by the Giants halfbacks - some he dealt with very well - some he needed some major help with. TBH he is showing a fair amount of potential but is a while from being ready.'"

Let's hope he gets lots more chances in first grade matches then, so that he will eventually be 'ready'.

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Armstrong was catching crossfield kicks with his hands held up at full stretch above his head, he took every single one brilliantly.

Got caught out for pace on an occasion or two when grubber kicks were put behind him.

Going forward he was a bit of a rag doll, but thats to be expected of a 19 year old.

He is certainly a lot safer defensively than Meli, but offensively he is currently far weaker. Hopefully with game time and experience he will improve his offensive play.

Wheeler was forced to play on the wing due to Gardner going off.
struggled to deal with a kick behind due to David Hodgsons pace , but did enough to prevent a try.
Took his own try very well, by stepping the Hudds defenders after it looked like Hudds had got cover across.

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Wheeler did what he needed to do, and took his try well.

Armstrong's defence was good, however, turn him, and he is very slow.

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wheeler had little do do, and did little wrong too..

armstrong was hit and miss, a few mistakes, as pointed out very slow on the turn, and dropped a simple pass, also got put into touch on two occasions, but defensively very good.

nothing a bit of experience won't sort

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Quote: OoOGazOoO "Wheeler did what he needed to do, and took his try well.

Armstrong's defence was good, however, turn him, and he is very slow.'"


I wouldnt say very slow. He is faster than Meli at getting back, however it is an area where teams with fast backs such as at Hudds and Leeds, would look to exploit.

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Quote: paulscunthorpe "wheeler had little do do, and did little wrong too..

armstrong was hit and miss, a few mistakes, as pointed out very slow on the turn, and dropped a simple pass, also got put into touch on two occasions, but defensively very good.

nothing a bit of experience won't sort'"


The pass he dropped was actually quite a difficult one as he had to stretch out to try to catch it, and was actually forward from Wilkin. When he got bundled in touch it was due to being given a pass one metre from the sideline, and its something no winger could avoid.

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Quote: The Chair Maker "I wouldnt say very slow. He is faster than Meli at getting back, however it is an area where teams with fast backs such as at Hudds and Leeds, would look to exploit.'"


im not so sure, i think his positioning was probably poorer than meli's therefore making him look slower at turning around. there was one occasion were it was only for the two huddersfield players taking each other out, and a try wasn't scored. i agree with you about the pass being difficult to take in, and the first of him going into touch, the second were he caught the ball on the touchline then got tackled was a big mistake, but as i said he'll get that with experience..

i'm only trying to put some perspective on it, because if meli had done those mistakes, there'd been a lynch-mob forming now

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Quote: The Chair Maker "I wouldnt say very slow. He is faster than Meli at getting back, however it is an area where teams with fast backs such as at Hudds and Leeds, would look to exploit.'"


No chance pal.

He is slower than Meli at turning.

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Quote: paulscunthorpe "
i'm only trying to put some perspective on it, because if meli had done those mistakes, there'd been a lynch-mob forming now'"


Thats because Meli is a lot older and has much more experience. Tom Armstrong is only in his second first team game, and is only 19. He was put under some pressure by Huddersfield today - much more than he had to deal with last week. He'll learn from those mistakes, and it'll be interesting to see how he develops given the fact there seems to be no sign of Meli.

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