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| Looking very very bleak at the moment... no cash, low crowds, no coach, losing their better English players and having to be shored up by the RFL again.
It would be a shame after all the outreach work and vastly improving academy but we can't keep throwing good money after bad without some return from London itself.
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| Shame this has to go out the same day as the Cup Final too.
Oh and surely this should set a few alarm bells ringing?
Quote: "Wigan chairman Ian Lenegan holds the majority stake, despite a two-year deadline to sell expiring in 2009.'"
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| Quote: Tony Stark "Shame this has to go out the same day as the Cup Final too.
Oh and surely this should set a few alarm bells ringing?
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Was thinking the same thing; is this within the rules?
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| Quote: Carlos Alberto "Was thinking the same thing; is this within the rules?'"
Lenegan was given two years to sell his share of the club. Sadly there have been no takers. I hope they don't go to the wall, but with the departure of McDermott, LMS, Sharp, Orr etc it doesn't look good for them or RL. No doubt the flat cappers will be happy.
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| But, do we know what the RFL's policy is on dual ownership? I know the Premier League forbid it.
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| Let Lenegans Quins go to the wall then hopefully it may have a knock on to Wigun
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| Quote: Rommel "Let Lenegans Quins go to the wall then hopefully it may have a knock on to Wigun
The club do have a habit of attracting deserting rats, Robinson, Uncle Mo, DW just to name a few, how much did the present owner know of whats going on now at Quins!!!
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| The RFL should have never let Mr. Leneghan buy WIGAN until he had sold his majority in quins even if it would have meant that quins went bust at that stage.
Ive been fully supportive of Quins inclusion but for all the pros of having a pro club in London in terms of player development, I don't believe that the harlequins franchise does its job as a promotional tool and growing the fan base.
The london franchise is a massive opportunity but will anyone ever be able to make it work?
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| 7.000,000 people in London 2,500 gates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
time the club folded along with the "no marks" in France, and promote widnes and an other END OF.
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| Quote: handrags "7.000,000 people in London 2,500 gates !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
time the club folded along with the "no marks" in France, and promote widnes and an other END OF.'"
Flat capper.
Here's a well thought out and reasoned reply from the Quins board, something that you seem incapable of.
Quote: handrags "For all our Widnes, Castleford, Wakefield fans on our message board some points to ponder
1) We have never had any financial assistance of the RFL
2) Superleague was expanded to 14 teams to facilitate geographical expansion, without expansion it would proabably be ten teams
3) The negotiable sky money would probably drop by a larger fraction than 1/14th fo every expansion team you lost so northern superleague teams would have their incomes reduced and their reaction would probably be to try and shrink the number of teams in the competition to maintain income.
4) Quins are in a double bind that our majority share holder is not allowed to put money in the club and our minority share holder is retiring and cannot maintain his great support for the club.
5) Please return to your own message boards and start lobbying for the RFL to take over majority share holding and taking on the losses or you will never have a chance of getting/keeping a superleague place.
Thank you!'"
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| You know, for all this chest beating about how London have to be in SL at sky's say so, ive never once seen any concrete evidence to back up this wild claim.
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| Sky is not a wild claim! they have Power and they can call the shots, but if "rumours" are to be believed Quins are not the only club in trouble!
I can see the game becoming a 10 team league in a few seasons time, Sky if they still want to proceed will pay much less as they will rightly say it will not have the same national interest! and what will clubs do then? can they still pay the same bloated wages to average players and finance these new grounds at the same time?
It is well time supports got their heads out of the sand, rugby league has problems and it is not just Quins! why can't we attract real major sponsors to the game any longer? why are BBC viewing figures so low, we may know why the Challenge Cup attendances are dropping every season, Money!
A lot of Northern viewers who are supporters watch Sky and Super League in Pubs and Clubs that is a fact, the majority of their viewers come outside of the North, so it is not fans that are propping Sky up.
The Game needs a real wake up call, people who remember TV Wrestling on ITV will know it attracted bigger audiences than any sport other that the FA Cup Final, full halls live every Saturday afternoon and a real personality in Ken Walton, this is well documented by anyone who has studied media but where is it now?
It's not all gloom we have a good product, but it has been damaged in some ways, neutral fans do not like all the kicking to the end of the pitch every sixth tackle, they can see that in Union, our few real Stars/Players are not marketed right, but we have to stop being so Parochial interested in only our own clubs, as the original Rugby League mast used to read "All for The Good of The Game" there were not many tears for Widnes, though there Chairman had great dignity, if Quins go there will be no tears, but Castleford , Wakefield seem to think they are guaranteed a place?
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| Im very pro london but i think it might be coming to the point where the rfl may say they have tried and failed.
I don't think it's right that the RFL should try and bail them out and bend the super league licence rules to cater for Quins when we have clubs like wildcats and cas on the verge of losing it's licence.
It would be great for the game if Quins made it work but at the moment it just ain't working!
It will be a real shame if Quins fold.
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| Quote: Doseymarker "The RFL should have never let Mr. Leneghan buy WIGAN until he had sold his majority in quins even if it would have meant that quins went bust at that stage.
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Good point, the RFL also gave Mr Leneghan until the end of 2009 to comply with so called "rugby league rulings" to sell his interests in the Quins club. Quins will never be allowed to prosper under the "Quins Rugby Union Umbrella", its all a case of the RFL sticking there head in the sand until something else happens.
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