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| I'm not taking away from Leeds, we lost fair and square.
But I just thought I would ask, why was Lomax penalised for playing on?????
Whether or not he was tackled, I thought the ruling now was that if the player with the ball plays on incorrectly the ref just tells them to go back to the mark.
So how come for the first time this season we got penalised???
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| No that's if he offloads it after being called held, ref can send him back. If he was tackled (I didn't see clearly) and played on its a penalty.
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| He passed it to Lance so that's an offload to me. I just thought it was incredibly harsh after a season of refs telling players to go back to the mark to suddenly penalize.
There was almost a carbon copy of that with Ablett later on, to me they looked the same, the tackler falls off as the player hits the deck. I'm not too bothered about one being called held and the other not, as it's tricky and split second for the ref. Just not necessary to penalize when he could have just reset the play from the mark.
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| Was a harsh call for sure. Made up by the lomax knock on that never was in 2nd half.
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| The ref got it badly wrong.... tackle was incomplete. It should have been play on.
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| Someone else got penalised for the same thing a couple of weeks ago.
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| Bad call by the ref but that's rugby.
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| There were plenty of penalties Bentham could and should have given, at the play the ball, but he didn't, that's Rugby!
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| I get that it was a bad call and it happens. Hence I'm not using it as an excuse. It just seemed strange to penalize when mostly that is now treated as a reset play the ball.
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| I thought Bentham had a poor game & missed too many straight forward spots. Lomax should never have been penalised, he got it wrong. Lomas clearly got his hand to the ball before hacking it downfield, he got that wrong. Sutcliffe didn't strip or knock the ball on late in the game from the Saints player (not sure who it was) he just lost it, he got that wrong. I thought all three of those should have been spotted by a first grade ref & while ref's do make mistakes he was not good enough yesterday IMO.
It was a great performance from Saints last night. I think had we not met at this stage we might have seen another Leeds v Saints final TBH. I think Saints have showed how valuable momentum is when it ones to he business end of the season.
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| I think against a team with decent halves, we where always going to come unstuck. But to come unstuck by one point exceeded my expectations.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I think against a team with decent halves, we where always going to come unstuck. But to come unstuck by one point exceeded my expectations.'"
Maguire looked poor last night. I'm a big fan of his but I think he's on his way out. They got great replacement in the young lad who covered him when he was out.
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| The refereeing was very strange last night. I felt there were a few calls which he got wrong last night, though not major ones. What surprised me most was the sheer amount of holding down he allowed, both from Saints and Leeds. As the final 3 minutes dawned after our Drop Goal I was shouting at my own players to stop trying to slow down the PTB as I felt sure we were going to end up giving away a penalty. In the same way, I was shouting at the referee to penalise Saints when we'd make a break and players would deliberately hold down the man in order to get their defence back. That's not an attack on your players as we did the same, but I didn't think the referee would allow us all to do it as much as he did.
That all being said, I didn't notice Bentham too much. In some games you feel like the referee is a third team you're against (Not necessarily 'siding' with the other team, but just being on his own causing problems) and you notice his presence (James Child, that one is you). Whereas Bentham didn't have a good game but he also didn't change the course of the game, I don't think? I guess subconciously you certainly look at it differently if you won or lost.
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| Unimpressed by Bentham for quite a lot of bad errors and the fact that he let a lot of high tackles go.
The lomax incident was very strange. I thought he'd done him for back chatting at the game but if he's given a penalty then that is annoying.
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| An absolutely riveting game, but I do think Saints should have gone for the two from half way when Sinfield put the kick-off into touch. I thought Saints could have been the dark horses this year and they almost did the biz last night, hard lines to them. I must say that there did seem to be some very strange refereeing decisions though.
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