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| Hi Guys
I am a HUddersfield fan and I have got Tommy makinson in my dream team. I have seen that Ade gardner is back in the 19 for your game on Friday.
I am just wondering if you guys think Makinson will still play for you or will he miss out now gardner is back?
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| At the moment he'll start because he's played his way into the starting 17. Can't comment on our current rotation policy. Simmons rotated a bit more than Mike and KC have.
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| Quote: nathaniel999 "Hi Guys
I am a HUddersfield fan and I have got Tommy makinson in my dream team. I have seen that Ade gardner is back in the 19 for your game on Friday.
I am just wondering if you guys think Makinson will still play for you or will he miss out now gardner is back?'"
Gardner will likely start because he's one of the older players and they appear to play regardless of their form or anybody else's under the current regime. However, if Gardner does play then I hope it is not at the expense of Makinson who has had (mostly) excellent games and certainly was a standout performer last week.
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| I think Rush will go for Gardner over Makinson every single time if he's fit. They bring different qualities to the team but I think in the (hopefully) close, tough grinds to come soon Gardner offers a bit more upside than Makinson does with his size and the impact of his carries early in the tackle count - he's also likelier to be a safer pair of hands defensively than Makinson when push comes to shove.
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| Maybe Meli will move back to the Centre with Gardner on one wing and Makinson on the other?
Gardner's early season form was really good to be fair.
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| Quote: Blobbynator "Maybe Meli will move back to the Centre with Gardner on one wing and Makinson on the other?'"
I would be very surprised if that happened. Meli said he was happy to be back on the wing. Therefore, I don't expect him to be moved.
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| If Gardner is recalled it will be because he was probably our best winger when fit, not because he is old, regardless of what some agenda chasing nincompoops might say.
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| Ade Gardner for me, offers a bit more than Makinson, Gardner was a real handful in offence and defence before he got injured. Makinson is quicker in open play but you can count on one hand the number of opportunities he,s had this season to show it.
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| Quote: Judder Man "Ade Gardner for me, offers a bit more than Makinson, Gardner was a real handful in offence and defence before he got injured. Makinson is quicker in open play but you can count on one hand the number of opportunities he,s had this season to show it.'"
Well, that could be partly due to the rest of the team.
No way could Gardner score some of the tries that Makinson has scored though; he just isn't quick or athletic enough. The only thing Gardner has over Makinson is his suicidal tendency to bash himself into bodies when taking up the ball. That's hardly a reason to drop Makinson though.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Well, that could be partly due to the rest of the team.
No way could Gardner score some of the tries that Makinson has scored though; he just isn't quick or athletic enough. The only thing Gardner has over Makinson is his suicidal tendency to bash himself into bodies when taking up the ball. That's hardly a reason to drop Makinson though.'"
The one thing Gardner has over Makinson is agression, something that we have in alarmingly short supply this season.
You are correct Gardner would probably not score tries in the same skilful manner, its just a difference in technique. Gardner would most likely crash his way over from close range, the end result would be the same, don,t underestimate Gardner he provides momentum like an extra forward and knowing him from Barrow has a really tough competitive attitude, a cumbrian trait I presume.
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| I would give Gardner a run to be honest. As Judder Man says too completley different style of wingers. Makinson is a terrific finisher at times but Gardner gives us extra go forward on our exit sets which is equally as valuable.
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| If Gardner is our best winger, that's a damning indictment of our youth system.
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| We have big games coming up, hopefully Gardner will come in for Meli to reduce the amount of cock-ups.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "If Gardner is our best winger, that's a damning indictment of our youth system.'"
To be fair, the way he was retuning the ball before he got injured, i think that could've been the best form I've seen from Ade.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "If Gardner is our best winger, that's a damning indictment of our youth system.'"
And/or our present coach.
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