Their culture. No, not the culture of the town, you can put your Mum's skirt down. I mean the club's mentality. They are coached by a deranged gorilla, but no matter how average the players are that they put out, they all go out with the mentality of 17 Japanese kamikaze pilots. Ultra aggressive from the first minute of the season to the last, no a complete disregard for their health.

To come back from 16-2 down today was simply magnificent. As much as I despise their very being, we must learn to adopt their mentality. The aggression, the clinical execution, the never say die attitude.

apart for the comment about Shaun Wane never thought i would half agree with a saddend comment, what a strange night.

I think we used to have that mentality, when we were winning things. But we won't see that mentality under Brown. He's far too casual.

Crazy thing is, this double winning team with great culture only finished one place above us in the league table.

blame the system, last season wigan was dumb and went all out this season wigan played it right.

Of course, the obligatory cannonball tackle helps as well eh!!!

didn't know you could cannon ball a hip but never mind still won with a half back only able to see out of 1 eye.

Not sure Ratchfords legs would have reacted quite the way they did had the tackle been to his hip.

It really wasn't to his hip.

We obviously need to learn to target key opposition players with dangerous tackles with the intention of making sure they leave the field thus disrupting the oppositions flow.

That aside you have a point re intensity and aggression, the majority of the season our pack especially had neither.

Sounds like the kind of bootylicking posts we used to get on the Wire forum every time you beat us in the last five minutes to extend your winning run over us "we should copy Saints they have a never say die culture blah blah".

The initial contact was to his hip,that particular tackle was just one of those things that can happen in a game,personally i dont think there was any intent involved.

As Tina Turner would say, "Simply the best".

I can see Rush banging his head against the wall, what a beautiful sight. At least Eamon knows his rugby, I believe that he was one of the few to predict a Wigan win.

True and won two more trophies.

And Wigan weren't really the best team.