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Can any one tell me please anything about him, why is he not playing? is he injured? ive looked all over but cant find anything, mind you S/L news not so hot in the south.
Thanks for any info.

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He's been dropped to the u20s, which is where he has been playing for the last couple of weeks and will be again tomorrow no doubt.

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thanks for that, but why has that happened was it anything to do with that night mare game he had?

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Quote: Journeyman "thanks for that, but why has that happened was it anything to do with that night mare game he had?'"


he's had a couple of games with costly mistakes so yes i would imagine its to do with that,he needs to get some confidence back before he is near the 1st team and if the team keeps playing like it has been he needs to prove he is worth a spot over the other wingers and competition for places is no bad thing.

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NO totally agree many thanks for the info guys.

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Quote: Journeyman "thanks for that, but why has that happened was it anything to do with that night mare game he had?'"

Partly, no doubt. However, the senior players are now in a collective with the two temporary coaches and so they are playing in their favoured positions which, for Meli, is on the wing (alas), and that means Foster wouldn't be playing even if he'd put in brilliant performances. Just as Makinson hasn't been playing even though he was in fine form (same for Dixon).

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Quote: SaintsFan "Partly, no doubt. However, the senior players are now in a collective with the two temporary coaches and so they are playing in their favoured positions which, for Meli, is on the wing (alas), and that means Foster wouldn't be playing even if he'd put in brilliant performances. Just as Makinson hasn't been playing even though he was in fine form (same for Dixon).'"



Utter rubbish! Players are playing in positions they should be and not where the idiot played them.

Makinson was been rested under Royce along with our other backs in Ade, wheeler, Meli and foster which was utter crazy.

Rush and KC have been using Meli and Ade as extra go forward like DA did which is paying off big time at the moment.

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Quote: Journeyman "Can any one tell me please anything about him, why is he not playing? is he injured? ive looked all over but cant find anything, mind you S/L news not so hot in the south.
Thanks for any info.'"
He has been dropped; justly so imo. Good goal kicker full stop.

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Quote: redex113 "He has been dropped; justly so imo. Good goal kicker full stop.'"


I don't think the word dropped is the correct word rush used wgen he took foster out. He is only young and needs to develop and a spell in the u20s will do him the world of good.

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Quote: St pete "Utter rubbish! Players are playing in positions they should be and not where the idiot played them.'"

So you weren't one of those saying Meli was playing well at centre? That he'd been a revelation there? No, of course you weren't! Like I've said previously, Mike Appleton tweeted after the Leeds game that it was great to see Meli happy playing his rugby again on the wing. Mark Flannagan on the Superleague Show said that some of the senior players had 'stepped up and shown their leadership qualities' since Royce left, which obviously implies they were doing neither while he was here. You will have noted that a few senior players are now playing in their expressed preferred positions, eg Meli on the wing, Wilkin at loose, etc. That doesn't mean they are playing in the best positions for them or, more importantly, for the team. Just that they prefer playing there. That more than suggests they have had a say in where they play, which is exactly what I posited.

Quote: St pete "Makinson was been rested under Royce along with our other backs in Ade, wheeler, Meli and foster which was utter crazy.'"

Had Makinson not been dropped for the last two games - a guy who was in form and playing well, so no reason to drop him - he would be better prepared to step in tomorrow to cover for Wello. As it is now he missed one week completely and played one week in an u20s loss, so he won't be as match ready. By rotating the squad Royce was keeping as many of his players as possible fresh should injuries hit (clearly he hadn't anticipated two bans in one go).

Quote: St pete "Rush and KC have been using Meli and Ade as extra go forward like DA did which is paying off big time at the moment.'"

Ade's been fantastic. But he was fantastic last season too until he suffered his snapped achilles. Ade's form has nothing to do with the change in coaching staff, just getting back to match fitness. At the time of his injury Royce said he needed Ade for his go forward and it was Royce who suggested that Ade be re-signed for two years, something that not many fans on here were pleased about towards the end of last season when Makinson was doing wonders out on that wing. Obviously you have forgotten.

Meli has occasionally taken the ball forward, this is true, but that won't last. It never does with Meli. He will pick the smallest bloke on the pitch and pass to him rather than take it up himself. Everybody knows this because he's always done it, sometimes across to Wello near the tryline causing fans to call him names from the terraces. Again, obviously you have forgotten.

I haven't.

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Quote: SaintsFan "So you weren't one of those saying Meli was playing well at centre? That he'd been a revelation there? No, of course you weren't! Like I've said previously, Mike Appleton tweeted after the Leeds game that it was great to see Meli happy playing his rugby again on the wing. Mark Flannagan on the Superleague Show said that some of the senior players had 'stepped up and shown their leadership qualities' since Royce left, which obviously implies they were doing neither while he was here. You will have noted that a few senior players are now playing in their expressed preferred positions, eg Meli on the wing, Wilkin at loose, etc. That doesn't mean they are playing in the best positions for them or, more importantly, for the team. Just that they prefer playing there. That more than suggests they have had a say in where they play, which is exactly what I posited.

Had Makinson not been dropped for the last two games - a guy who was in form and playing well, so no reason to drop him - he would be better prepared to step in tomorrow to cover for Wello. As it is now he missed one week completely and played one week in an u20s loss, so he won't be as match ready. By rotating the squad Royce was keeping as many of his players as possible fresh should injuries hit (clearly he hadn't anticipated two bans in one go).

Ade's been fantastic. But he was fantastic last season too until he suffered his snapped achilles. Ade's form has nothing to do with the change in coaching staff, just getting back to match fitness. At the time of his injury Royce said he needed Ade for his go forward and it was Royce who suggested that Ade be re-signed for two years, something that not many fans on here were pleased about towards the end of last season when Makinson was doing wonders out on that wing. Obviously you have forgotten.

Meli has occasionally taken the ball forward, this is true, but that won't last. It never does with Meli. He will pick the smallest bloke on the pitch and pass to him rather than take it up himself. Everybody knows this because he's always done it, sometimes across to Wello near the tryline causing fans to call him names from the terraces. Again, obviously you have forgotten.

I haven't.'"



Royce was resting backs every week, WTF was all that about? Gary wheeler got man of the match, signed new deal and then royce rested him!

Rush and KC have gone with what is best for the team, they knew we was struggling with go forward and used the old trick of big powerful wingers coming in and acting as forwards and our go forward has improved.

Do you think wello new found form is just based on Royce being sacked? Well it's not, he's being used less in trying to clear our line as the wingers ate now doing his donkey work which allows wello to do the things he does best and get into postions he's getting in.

It's pretty clear to see that rush is using the Anderson style that served us so well and it's working so far.

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Quote: St pete "Do you think wello new found form is just based on Royce being sacked? '"

Nothing new found about it. He was great at Bradford. He was great last year too, before his achilles problem. I've no idea why you think that question was relevant to what I said?

As for Gary Wheeler, since he has now been absent for two matches due to injury do you really need to ask why Royce rested him? Royce said why himself: he wanted to try and avoid injuries to keep his players fresh for later in the season as he felt they were out on their feet by that time and that is why they were losing the Grand Finals. Royce wanted to help them to win the Grand Final. He was quite clear about that on more than one occasion. That was his reason for rotating the squad. Injuries can't be avoided altogether, obviously, but he had it right where Wheeler was concerned, as we all know.

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Saintsfan you blind faith for the last pillock that coached us is laughable. We were f@@@ing boring, constantly repeated the same mistakes, discipline was woeful & selections frankly mind boggling. Resting players was a luxury we couldnt afford given our need for points, performances & league position.
His dictorial style of coaching left us predictable, boring & incapable of scoring points.
Cant believe anyone was happy watching that e. The GF was in the past, when Graham & Robys performances papered over the cracks. Good riddence, obviously the players felt the same.

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Quote: theres only one stan wall "Saintsfan you blind faith for the last pillock that coached us is laughable. We were f@@@ing boring, constantly repeated the same mistakes, discipline was woeful & selections frankly mind boggling. Resting players was a luxury we couldnt afford given our need for points, performances & league position.
His dictorial style of coaching left us predictable, boring & incapable of scoring points.
Cant believe anyone was happy watching that poop. The GF was in the past, when Graham & Robys performances papered over the cracks. Good riddence, obviously the players felt the same.'"


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Quote: SaintsFan "Nothing new found about it. He was great at Bradford. He was great last year too, before his achilles problem. I've no idea why you think that question was relevant to what I said?

As for Gary Wheeler, since he has now been absent for two matches due to injury do you really need to ask why Royce rested him? Royce said why himself


Strange, you've be calling for makinson to replace wello at fullback so your contradicting yourself.

What a terrible and shocking idea of resting backs. Makinson, wheeler and foster was constantly rested, they are young lads! WTF!!!

You look very stupid over the last few weeks with your backing of Royce Simmons and having arguments every day because you won't just admit he was total gash, the worst coach we've had, totally clueless, boring idiot!

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