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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance.
There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard.  [/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg |
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Before I start...this is not a troll.
Do Saints fans think he is the same player he was 2/3 years ago? In 2007-9 he was probably in the top 3 players in the league. He got through a load of work, bust the line frequently, was creative and led your side brilliantly.
IMO he looks a shadow of that player now. Almost like he was worked into the ground over that time and has lost a bit of that impact he once had. I used to fear everytime he got the ball. While he is still effective and displays undoubted passion and commitment the quality of what he does seems to have deteriorated. I didn't ever feel he was going to break us last night.
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| Quote: Andy R "Before I start...this is not a troll.
Do Saints fans think he is the same player he was 2/3 years ago? In 2007-9 he was probably in the top 3 players in the league. He got through a load of work, bust the line frequently, was creative and led your side brilliantly.
IMO he looks a shadow of that player now. Almost like he was worked into the ground over that time and has lost a bit of that impact he once had. I used to fear everytime he got the ball. While he is still effective and displays undoubted passion and commitment the quality of what he does seems to have deteriorated. I didn't ever feel he was going to break us last night.'"
very true.We have run him into the ground over the years.Doubt if he will make an impact down under |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: Andy R "Before I start...this is not a troll.
Do Saints fans think he is the same player he was 2/3 years ago? In 2007-9 he was probably in the top 3 players in the league. He got through a load of work, bust the line frequently, was creative and led your side brilliantly.
IMO he looks a shadow of that player now. Almost like he was worked into the ground over that time and has lost a bit of that impact he once had. I used to fear everytime he got the ball. While he is still effective and displays undoubted passion and commitment the quality of what he does seems to have deteriorated. I didn't ever feel he was going to break us last night.'"
2011 hasn't been his greatest season but IMO he's still been head and shoulders above any other prop in super league. His poor form is still a quality performance as he's that good.
I thought he had his best game in saints shirt against Wigan.
If the is a better prop in the world then that prop must be one hell of a prop! |
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Quote: Andy R "Before I start...this is not a troll.
Do Saints fans think he is the same player he was 2/3 years ago? In 2007-9 he was probably in the top 3 players in the league. He got through a load of work, bust the line frequently, was creative and led your side brilliantly.
IMO he looks a shadow of that player now. Almost like he was worked into the ground over that time and has lost a bit of that impact he once had. I used to fear everytime he got the ball. While he is still effective and displays undoubted passion and commitment the quality of what he does seems to have deteriorated. I didn't ever feel he was going to break us last night.'"
Looks pretty similar to me?
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Quote: Andy R "Before I start...this is not a troll.
Do Saints fans think he is the same player he was 2/3 years ago? In 2007-9 he was probably in the top 3 players in the league. He got through a load of work, bust the line frequently, was creative and led your side brilliantly.
IMO he looks a shadow of that player now. Almost like he was worked into the ground over that time and has lost a bit of that impact he once had. I used to fear everytime he got the ball. While he is still effective and displays undoubted passion and commitment the quality of what he does seems to have deteriorated. I didn't ever feel he was going to break us last night.'"
Looks pretty similar to me?
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Best prop forward Super League has ever seen by some considerable distance. His stats are unbeatable and it's not just a statistical superiority, he's put in so many game changing performances and been an absolute rock for us.
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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance.
There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. [/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg |
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| Quote: St pete "2011 hasn't been his greatest season but IMO he's still been head and shoulders above any other prop in super league. His poor form is still a quality performance as he's that good.
I thought he had his best game in saints shirt against Wigan.
If the is a better prop in the world then that prop must be one hell of a prop!'"
Agree to a certain extent. He never has a poor performance, in a similar way to Morley or Peacock. I just think over the last couple of years he has lost he bit of that spark that made him extra special.
3 years ago I think he probably was the best in the world - he's still very good but no longer great for me |
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great player and always took the banter well when we came to Knowsley road.
for one i hope he shows the Aussie what a class player he is
Good Luck JG
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
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| Quote: Andy R "Agree to a certain extent. He never has a poor performance, in a similar way to Morley or Peacock. I just think over the last couple of years he has lost he bit of that spark that made him extra special.
3 years ago I think he probably was the best in the world - he's still very good but no longer great for me'"
This season might have been his worst for saints but he's still put in massive performances, passion, work rate and never gives up.
Still best prop in the world for me. |
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Class player and i think you'll miss him alot more than you missed Cunningham. Think he spits the dummy out too much to be a success down under....wonder if he threw his losing grand final ring into the crowd again?
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| Quote: warrior1973 "Class player and i think you'll miss him alot more than you missed Cunningham. Think he spits the dummy out too much to be a success down under....wonder if he threw his losing grand final ring into the crowd again?'"
Yep, Aussies never spit the dummy.
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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| Quote: warrior1973 "Class player and i think you'll miss him alot more than you missed Cunningham. Think he spits the dummy out too much to be a success down under....wonder if he threw his losing grand final ring into the crowd again?'"
Who cares what he did with losers medal but he certainly didn't stoop as low to give the Leeds fans two fingers.
Watched the game this morning and was great to see all the Leeds players go over to jammer and wish him all the best. |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
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| Quote: warrior1973 "Class player and i think you'll miss him alot more than you missed Cunningham. Think he spits the dummy out too much to be a success down under....wonder if he threw his losing grand final ring into the crowd again?'"
The Aussies are model professionals ain't they?
Drink, fights, rape etc |
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[quote="G1":1x8x7ghm]Nice one Andy. You articulated a differing opinion given reasons and substance.
There's really no place for the likes of you on Substandard. [/quote:1x8x7ghm]:7098.jpg |
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| Quote: St pete "Who cares what he did with losers medal but he certainly didn't stoop as low to give the Leeds fans two fingers.
Watched the game this morning and was great to see all the Leeds players go over to jammer and wish him all the best.'"
After what has gone on in the past the mutual respect yesterday was good to see.
He deserves all the well wishes. He's been a SL great and should have lots of good years left. My own fear is burn out. He will certainly represent SL well down under. |
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[watching Mackay testing the curry in the prison kitchens]
Fletcher: Course, he sees 'imself as an authority on curry, he does, on account of where he was stationed in the army.
Rudge: Where? India?
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| Quote: St pete "The Aussies are model professionals ain't they?
Drink, fights, rape etc'" Dont forget dogs.  |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif |
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| Quote: Andy R "After what has gone on in the past the mutual respect yesterday was good to see.
He deserves all the well wishes. He's been a SL great and should have lots of good years left. My own fear is burn out. He will certainly represent SL well down under.'"
He'll get spelled more in the nrl. He might not like it but he'll have to get used to it. |
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