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| Got the makings of a great side
Board and managment need to be ruthless - only ay to kick on and get us over the line
Royce - need to prepare the side for big games and give them the belief that they can win. Why did we not do any moves in the first 35 mins?
Meli, Flannery - not good enough now despite some good service. LEt them go and bring in a back - cheap Carmont style ideal
Wello - love the guy but move to 13
Makinson / Hohia need to fill the 1 jersey for next year
Perry - needs to be on pay as you play
Wheeler - centre spot is there for the taking - get gime on the most gruelling pre-season fitness regime
Gaskell/Lomax - evaluate your performance, learn from your mistakes
Its been a good season - let's make next year a great one
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| I wouldn't move wello in to the 13 position. If he can't hold his fullback spot down then I'd not pick him at all.
Flannery was kept because the is nothing out there and he's cheap. With our injury record it's better to keep him than have no one.
Perry would never agree to pay as you play and it's not entirly fair. He's not chose to be injured and pretty sure he'd loved to been out there tonight.
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| Quote: Harborne Saint "Got the makings of a great side
Board and managment need to be ruthless - only ay to kick on and get us over the line
Royce - need to prepare the side for big games and give them the belief that they can win. Why did we not do any moves in the first 35 mins?
Quote: Harborne Saint "Meli, Flannery - not good enough now despite some good service. LEt them go and bring in a back - cheap Carmont style ideal'"
Who exactly could we sign to replace Flannery and Meli ? whoever it was would have to be off quota and there are not a lot of people that spring to mind,name me some better non quota players that are out of contract that we could replace them with ?
Quote: Harborne Saint "Wello - love the guy but move to 13'"
After the Wigan games Wello was just fine for the job,and tonight until his injury he was good,hes captain for next season and will be fullback.
Quote: Harborne Saint "Makinson / Hohia need to fill the 1 jersey for next year'"
Makinson did a good job tonight and it could be his future position,Hohia it has been stated is playing in the halves so forget that one.
Quote: Harborne Saint "Perry - needs to be on pay as you play'"
Did you say that about Soliola last year ? if we get a reputation of not looking after players that get injured for us then we wont make any good signings as players wont come,it was frustrating Perry got injured but its one of those things.
Quote: Harborne Saint "Wheeler - centre spot is there for the taking - get gime on the most gruelling pre-season fitness regime'"
I would love to see Wheeler fit and playing there i agree with you on this one.
Quote: Harborne Saint "Gaskell/Lomax - evaluate your performance, learn from your mistakes'"
Again i agree with you on this one,experience counts and they will get better.
Quote: Harborne Saint "Its been a good season - let's make next year a great one'" '"
100% with you on this one to.
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| I agree with the being ruthless. But then the club goes and resigns Flannery, Meli and Gardner.
Those three plus Wello must leave. Wello, as much as I love him, is an absolute joke these days, he's as mobile as a manequin and that horrific comb over. He is nothing more than a roadside statue in defense and contributes less than nothing in attack.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I agree with the being ruthless. But then the club goes and resigns Flannery, Meli and Gardner.
Those three plus Wello must leave. Wello, as much as I love him, is an absolute joke these days, he's as mobile as a manequin and that horrific comb over. He is nothing more than a roadside statue in defense and contributes less than nothing in attack.'"
I agree, wello is slow but his positional play can't be bought and has been very good the last month and has been carrying acpretty bad thigh injury.
Jamie foster ain't got much more to offer with the ball in hand. Still waiting for him to go past a defender.
It's no shock we resigned the three players named above as our recruitment policy has been poor for to long now.
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| Quote: Saddened! "I agree with the being ruthless. But then the club goes and resigns Flannery, Meli and Gardner.
Those three plus Wello must leave. Wello, as much as I love him, is an absolute joke these days, he's as mobile as a manequin and that horrific comb over. He is nothing more than a roadside statue in defense and contributes less than nothing in attack.'"
Its all very well and good saying they must leave,but who would you sign ? you want to get rid of 4 players ok fair enough but which 4 non quota players would you get ? now play fair and pick the out of contract ones no the imaginary ones that we could never buy,also no overseas players as we have no room for them.
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| Quote: brook40 "Its all very well and good saying they must leave,but who would you sign ? you want to get rid of 4 players ok fair enough but which 4 non quota players would you get ? now play fair and pick the out of contract ones no the imaginary ones that we could never buy,also no overseas players as we have no room for them.'"
this is so easy to solve, and we have cover at all these positions too. We're stuck with ade, so 1 Lance/Makinson. 2 Makinson/Ade. 3 Shenton/Wheeler. 4(soliola wont play here) Meli/wheeler. 5 Foster
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| Could be wrong but isn't it illegal to have a player on a pay as you play contract ?
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| Quote: pmarrow "Could be wrong but isn't it illegal to have a player on a pay as you play contract ?'"
no, but you'd be dancing with death as far as the slary cap, unless you account for them playing all the games
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| Quote: pmarrow "Could be wrong but isn't it illegal to have a player on a pay as you play contract ?'"
Not sure,but i think we did it with Scully when he tried to come back from all his injuries didnt we ?
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| Quote: Saint Simon "no, but you'd be dancing with death as far as the slary cap, unless you account for them playing all the games'"
I'm just sure it would break the visa rules.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "no, but you'd be dancing with death as far as the slary cap, unless you account for them playing all the games'"
The cap would count them as playing every match. It wouldn't be likely to happen, but perhaps it might result in one or two players actually getting onto the field.
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| Quote: pmarrow "I'm just sure it would break the visa rules.'"
just put them on the mastacard then!
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| Quote: Harborne Saint "Got the makings of a great side
Board and managment need to be ruthless - only ay to kick on and get us over the line
Royce - need to prepare the side for big games and give them the belief that they can win. Why did we not do any moves in the first 35 mins?
Meli, Flannery - not good enough now despite some good service. LEt them go and bring in a back - cheap Carmont style ideal Like who? Who's available, hmmm? I love the fact that there are people poised like coiled springs to start blaming Meli (in a game when he did nothing wrong), [iand a bloke who didn't even flippin' well play[/i for the defeat.... Scapegoating kneejerking agenda'ed nonsense of the very highest order. All a moot point anyway as Flannery and Meli are both on contracts to the end of next year, so nothing anyone could do about replacing them even if they [iwere [/iboth the Spawn of Satan. Nothing wrong with our backline options for next season anyway, we just need halfs who can pass a ball to them....
Wello - love the guy but move to 13 Agree it's time for him to start being phased out now certainly, but I see no point in playing him in the pack at all - utility back role off the bench seems his best role for next season to me
Makinson / Hohia need to fill the 1 jersey for next year Hmmmm.... Probably Lomax at #1 with Gaskell/Wheeler/Hohaia in the halves for me
Perry - needs to be on pay as you play Read the above - he's contracted for next season and sod all we can do about it. I think we need to see him play vaguely fit before we start writing him off anyway
Wheeler - centre spot is there for the taking - get gime on the most gruelling pre-season fitness regime Agree wholeheartedly - he's still best at #6 but could be fabulous at #4 too letting us accomodate Gaskell
Gaskell/Lomax - evaluate your performance, learn from your mistakes Also agree wholeheartedly - 2 potentially great players who aren't there yet, but will be if they carry on as this season.
Its been a good season - let's make next year a great one Hear, hear! Just so long as it doesn't end in another bloody O/T final.... I need a break desperately from them now....'"
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| Quote: Saint Simon "just put them on the mastacard then!'"
I'm meaning more for an overseas player, I doubt a pay per play contract would be allowed with immigration services or whoever deals with all that stuff.
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