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| Has signed a new 2 year contract. Confirmed at the fans forum going on now.
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| why, what does he offer that Makinson or foster dont? I'm unsurprised but still disappointed
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| I'm pleased with that - he has been in fine form this season and there is no reason why he can't next season. It will give the young lads more time to come through.
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| He's in form everytime his contract is due. I still think Makinson and Foster are more talented and faster wingers now
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Has signed a new 2 year contract. Confirmed at the fans forum going on now.'"
He signed the week pryce confirmed he's off.
Big pay cut by all accounts
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| Quote: Saint Simon "He's in form everytime his contract is due. I still think Makinson and Foster are more talented and faster wingers now'"
IMO makinson is better than Gardner and will be disappointed if he takes his wing spot as he's looking a very good player.
I think ade is a better player than Jamie but Jamie is very important due to his kicking.
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| Quote: St pete "IMO makinson is better than Gardner and will be disappointed if he takes his wing spot as he's looking a very good player.
I think ade is a better player than Jamie but Jamie is very important due to his kicking.'"
This exactly.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Has signed a new 2 year contract. Confirmed at the fans forum going on now.'"
Well that's a shame. Saints aren't learning that sometimes we need to let players go, regardless of the length of time they have played for us.
Unless Makinson is seen long term as something else? Wello's understudy perhaps? A future centre? (He played centre and fullback before this season)
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Well that's a shame. Saints aren't learning that sometimes we need to let players go, regardless of the length of time they have played for us.
Unless Makinson is seen long term as something else? Wello's understudy perhaps? A future centre? (He played centre and fullback before this season)'"
I see what your saying that saints might see makinson as long term but he's in now and more than punching above his weight.
If he's seen as wello replacement then leave him on the wing and let him to continue to develop and we will have better idea if he's up to it.
IMO he's the best winger at the club at this current time. He's fast, safe, strong, tackles and looks like he can make a break.
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| Quote: St pete "If he's seen as wello replacement then leave him on the wing and let him to continue to develop and we will have better idea if he's up to it.
IMO he's the best winger at the club at this current time. He's fast, safe, strong, tackles and looks like he can make a break.'"
yep, dropping him now for Ade would be just dumb
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| Quote: Saint Simon "yep, dropping him now for Ade would be just dumb'"
If saints had been on the ball recruitment wise then both ade and Meli (when he was winger) should have been replaced two years ago.
How Meli got a two year deal last year in the form he was in was unreal!
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| Quote: St pete "If saints had been on the ball recruitment wise then both ade and Meli (when he was winger) should have been replaced two years ago.
How Meli got a two year deal last year in the form he was in was unreal!'"
to be fair meli got something like 21 trys last year, with no recognised centre. letting a player like that go would have been dumb!
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| Quote: Saint Simon "to be fair meli got something like 21 trys last year, with no recognised centre. letting a player like that go would have been dumb!'"
His form the year before didn't warrant a two year deal. Lucky enough he's played pretty well.
He should never play wing again as he's a liability.
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| .. Must say I think a year would have been right but he definately deserves something.
Ade was doing excellent work. He was doing a brilliant job clearing our line. He would more often than not take the first run after we had fielded a kick. He was hitting the ball up hard and with pace followed by a very quick play the ball. What this resulted in was a defence on the back foot which was then exploited by James Roby running into acres of space from dummy . Ade has also without doubt ironed out his vulnerability under kicks and was pretty solid in that respect.
Since he has been out we have been much less effective working away from our own line.
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| two years is i think right for both Ade and Saints.
Ade still has something to offer Saints and i would expect a fully fit Ade to be one of our starting wingers over the next two years.
As for Makinson and Foster, they are both young kids learning their trade. Going with two inexperienced wingers is a recipe for disaster in big games.
I am a big fan of Makinson in particular. For a 19 year old he is outstanding. Think how good he may be in two years.
I see his future at centre or alternatively at fullback. His pace in both of those positions is better utilised than on the wing. In the modern game its more important for a winger to be 6ft 2, a good catcher and finisher than to be necessarily fast. Its a brucie bonus if you end up with someone like Josh Morris on the wing who also possesses good pace. If you doubt this just look at Australia were most of the real quick men play either at fullback or centre.
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