What do you think Saints need to do to get a grade A (is it just the stadium or something else?)

The licence grades awarded for 2012 to 2014 are as follows (current licence grading in brackets):
B - Bradford Bulls (B)
C - Castleford Tigers (C)
B - Catalan Dragons (C)
C - Harlequins RL (C)
B - Huddersfield Giants (C)
A - Hull FC (A)
B - Hull Kingston Rovers (C)
A - Leeds Rhinos (A)
B - St Helens (B)
C - Salford City Reds (C)
A - Warrington Wolves (A)
C - Wakefield Trinity Wildcats (C)
C - Widnes Vikings (-)
A - Wigan Warriors (B)

improve the beer and get more fans

This season average attendance is less than 9000 hence the B

Move to Leeds

Stop haemorrhaging money. (The accumulated losses over the last few years are in the region of £2.3 million, and that was up to 2009) Finance was one of the considerations.
The new ground should obviously help with that.

Will you stop spouting drivel. The reason for the B grade is the attendances for this year because we are building our own stadium, although if we belive the tripe you post its better to rent and have your games shifted at the whim of the owners.

Just because you want sts to be losing money and to be worse off than your lot doesnt make it true. Wigan are not in any better a position than we are and at the end of the day we will be in a SIGNIFICANTLY improved position.

Quote: steve "Will you stop spouting drivel. The reason for the B grade is the attendances for this year because we are building our own stadium, although if we belive the tripe you post its better to rent and have your games shifted at the whim of the owners. Just because you want sts to be losing money and to be worse off than your lot doesnt make it true. Wigan are not in any better a position than we are and at the end of the day we will be in a SIGNIFICANTLY improved position.'" There you are, www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ldp ... -27129723/

Quote: steve "Will you stop spouting drivel. The reason for the B grade is the attendances for this year because we are building our own stadium, although if we belive the tripe you post its better to rent and have your games shifted at the whim of the owners. Just because you want sts to be losing money and to be worse off than your lot doesnt make it true. Wigan are not in any better a position than we are and at the end of the day we will be in a SIGNIFICANTLY improved position.'" There you are, www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/ldp ... -27129723/

2014 will see Saints move up to A grade without doubt. The new stadium will take care of it.

We were never going to get an A. Simply if you look at the stadia criteria. You needed to have a stadium ready this year to get an A on just that one criterion.

But we have a stadium though - Widnes. And that quite clearly fits the criteria as Widnes are in Superleague.

I think it will be the crowd issue that left us with a Grade B. We didn't get the minimum 9000 for this season to be awarded an A.

No its mainly the stadium - I think that last time we exceeded the 9K but still got a B and according to RL Express the lack of a decent stadium was quoted by the RFL last time for having a decent stadium.
(I'm sure you need both attendance targets and a decent stadium to get an A and I don't think borrowing someone elses stadium counts)!

Last time it WAS the stadium, yes. But this time it cannot be the stadium because we are no longer in it. It is a deceased stadium. It is no more. Our stadium for this season is Widnes and the RFL can clearly see our new stadium on the website. (And didn't they recently visit it as a possible venue for the World Cup? It looks better than KR already!) I just can't see it being our stadium.

I don't think borrowing counts.

I think if the stadium was not ready for this season, but was ready for next, then it was a B

But maybe Saints will publish the details when they get them off the RFL

Er, do you really think they will?

I'd be very shocked if they did. That would be a sign of them communicating, and Saints are not known for their communication skills - not with fans, anyway.