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| Why is it the end of the Crusaders? It's the end of their season, granted, and Leeds now have a guaranteed 3000 points difference on everyone else, but since there are only three games left of this season and they are not contenders for the playoffs, I don't see why the club can't now focus on recruitment for next season, but sensibly and legally this time, along with their plans to move to Bridgend, etc.
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| surely you cant keep them in super league, in my opinion we should allow a promotion and demote them
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| Frankly it's embarrassing and they should be kicked out!
What a joke SL looks again!
Good job those Union Idiots are making themselves a laughing stock also!
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Why is it the end of the Crusaders? It's the end of their season, granted, and Leeds now have a guaranteed 3000 points difference on everyone else, but since there are only three games left of this season and they are not contenders for the playoffs, I don't see why the club can't now focus on recruitment for next season, but sensibly and legally this time, along with their plans to move to Bridgend, etc.'"
Not that I think anything will be done by the RFL, or indeed can be done, but it does have some implications as they now play us and i think Giants after the CC so points difference could be an issue with Saints?
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| They've deliberately stuck their fingers up at the RFL by bringing in illegal players from day one, won games with them and wasted hours of superleague time by playing in a manner they knew they could never sustain.
There's no accident here. Time for them to be booted out. 6 players leave now. Team finishes now.
Kicking 6 players out of a team and banning them from the country for 10 yeasrs is unprecidented in the history of RL
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Could it have a "big say" in how the Superleague table looks at the end of the season.
Celtics three remaining fixtures are
Leeds
Huddersfield
Castleford
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| personally i just think whether it was done on purpose or not they have cheated and if i was a fan of someone who got turned down for a spot in super league id be very unhappy now, open it up and have a promotion race in the championship
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11659.jpg Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand.
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Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too.
Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record.
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| Widnes in and Celtic out. Enough said. ![Thumbs up icon_thumb.gif](images/smilies//icon_thumb.gif)
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| How sad some comments here, it shows how parochial our game still is! this season has been embarrassing in the rugby weekly press the whining from some clubs supporters who did not make Super League.
It is rumoured the complaint came from the Wigan area, oh no not Leigh! would that be.
[iThose in glass houses sometimes should not throw stones[/i do we remember some players involved with betting offences in RL, with the FA they handed out real sentences to those who broke rules as seen recently with player s form such as Accrington Stanley!
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| Quote: WidnesExile "Frankly it's embarrassing and they should be kicked out!'"
Yeah, well, you're not exactly in the best position to judge anyone's future, you being a bitter Widnes fan and all. It isn't the fans fault this has happened you know, so why punish them? That's what you'd be doing by kicking the club out.
This is an admin error so far as I can read into it. It isn't a deliberate ploy to deceive the authorities. God knows this government has come down hard on antipodeans playing in rugby league of late, for some obscure reason. Presumably just because they can.
This is embarrassing insofar as it makes the RFL look like the amateur bunch they truly are. They are the ruling body and should have been keeping an eye on such matters, especially given it was a new club.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "Could it have a "big say" in how the Superleague table looks at the end of the season.'"
And without them it could have looked exactly the same. Celtic have been crucified with injuries for the latter half of this season. Weren't most of those six missing from action anyway?
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: SaintsFan "And without them it could have looked exactly the same. Celtic have been crucified with injuries for the latter half of this season. Weren't most of those six missing from action anyway?'"
If Leeds, Huddersfield and Cas run up big scores it could effect the League table and play offs.
Mark Dalle Cort, Josh Hannay and van Dijk all played last week.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "If Leeds, Huddersfield and Cas run up big scores it could effect the League table and play offs.'"
But with Celtic's injury list, that could have happened anyway.
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11659.jpg Phil Bentham scoured the video tape and despite conclusive evidence that Smith was a half yard offside, he allowed the try to stand.
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Saints are a big-game team with bags of big-game experience. They have won five Challenge Cups from six final appearances in the Super League era and have won five Grand Finals in that time too.
Add two World Club Championships to that and you have the roll-call of the best rugby league team this country has produced in the modern-era - and it's a phenomenal record.
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Ancient & Royal wrote....
"You are proud to be associated with that dis-organised band of mercenaries?
I am ashamed to be a Wigan fan hell yes, what have we got to be un-ashamed about? We are a joke, a laughing stock, we are NOTHING, why cant people understand!":11659.jpg |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Yeah, well, you're not exactly in the best position to judge anyone's future, you being a bitter Widnes fan and all. It isn't the fans fault this has happened you know, so why punish them? That's what you'd be doing by kicking the club out.
This is an admin error so far as I can read into it. It isn't a deliberate ploy to deceive the authorities. God knows this government has come down hard on antipodeans playing in rugby league of late, for some obscure reason. Presumably just because they can.
This is embarrassing insofar as it makes the RFL look like the amateur bunch they truly are. They are the ruling body and should have been keeping an eye on such matters, especially given it was a new club.'"
It was a disgrace that Widnes were refused in the 1st place. This just adds fuel to the fire. They were told categorically by the RFL before they assemled their bid that going into administration and coming out of it (after they lost the 2007 playoff final) would not go against them in their application. Then the RFL refused them and Dicky Lewis even sited that as the reason. Absolute disgrace. There is no way in the world on the points scoring system that Celtic should have had a place over Widnes. From NL2 to Superleague in 2 years. It's laughable. They were never going to be good enough and it was a bad idea to bring them in so soon. Even with all these illegal Aussies they have not been competetive.
Also they virtually blackmailed the RFL with statements that if they were not given a SL licenece for 2009 that they would not survive the three years until the next window. What kind of basis is that to allow them a SL place? ![NAUGHTY eusa_naughty.gif](images/smilies//eusa_naughty.gif)
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