With you guys looking likely to finish 2nd the smart money would be on a wigan saints grand final.

This would however put you in a situation where you could lose 4 grand finals on the trot and at the hands of your rivals.

Is this a big psychological disadvantage hanging over your heads? It must play on the players minds.

Poor effort.

well the way i see it as at leat we got there nad proved that we are the top or second best team in the league, no shame in loosing to the better team on the day

With a full strength side we'd bleep all over Wigan and their overrated goons.

Damn right we would.

No issues beating anyone beside Leeds. We have come up with zero 3 in a row, I am sure that plays on some players minds. Love to see us both go toe to toe with full strength teams, but its not going to happen this year, yes we may go toe to toe in the final, but in no way will we be close to full strenght, and I am sure leeds will be missing 3 or more by the way things are going.

Confident on playing and beating ANY of the rest, its just the Leeds hurdle tha tmakes me gulp and think " brandy " !

you do set yourself up some times !

No, he sets other people up and reels them in.

Has [ishe[/i grown balls?

I think it will be a Leeds vs Wire or Saints final.

Especially after last night.

Leeds is definate.

Then It is who turns the other over. Wire or Saints. I'd be happy with either of those matches. Also if Leeds lose two Finals in a row this year I will smile super hard!

leeds won't make the grand final with just two fit props

I wouldn't write them off.

Agreed 100%.

Well there's one thing you've had more practise than anyone else at Old Trafford so that should go in your favour!!