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| Looking at your merchandise range from ISC, and looking at Leeds Rhinos exact same products, I am wondering why such a dramatic difference in price ??? I think also Hull FC are also way below your prices.
I would expect a major city like Leeds to be getting premium prices in comparison to St Helens etc......
Rhinos Hoody £30,
Saints Hoody £45 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 50% More expensive
Rhinos Rain Jacket £30
Saints Rain Jacket £40 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 33% More Expensive
Rhinos Fleece £32
Saints Fleece £45 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 40% More Expensive
Rhinos Jacket £47
Saints Jacket £70 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 50% More Expensive
Rhinos Train Shorts £18
Saints Train Shorts £30 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 66% More Expensive
Rhinos Elite Training £24
Saint Elite Training £45 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 80% More Expensive
Rhinos Synergy Jacket £33
Saints Synergy Jacket £45 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) 40% More Expensive
Rhinos Train Tee £22
Saints Train Tee £25 ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif) BARGAIN !!!!
Same gear, same supplier.........someone is having their pants pulled down !! ![CRAZY d040.gif](images/smilies//d040.gif)
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| I have to say I've thought for a while our Merchandise was expensive and if they are the same kind of products that is a big difference.
Many might say we are subsidising the new stadium and not mind but it does seem a lot.
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| I often wonder how many people are daft enough to pay £30 for a pair of shorts that cost £5 in JJB but without the club badge.
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| I suspect Saints may use a slightly different pricing tactic than Leeds.
It may be that Saints launch high but then quickly engage heavy discounting of the launch price.
I expect this will happen in the new year sales. The reality will of course be that the discounted price will be roughly equivalent to the current price of the Leeds merchandise.
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| or that Leeds have entered into purchasing more hence their cost price is lower allowing them to sell for less.
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| Stop looking for valid reasons. We should protest. We could hire those vile students to trash Widnes town centre and attack Stevo's car as he arrives for our first televised game.
I'm getting those £30 shorts for Christmas. My balls will feel great wrapped in £30 worth of polyester. Personally I'd rather pay more, I'd rather my money went to Saints than to Tesco like the rest of my money.
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| We have a shiny new stadium to pay for.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "I suspect Saints may use a slightly different pricing tactic than Leeds.
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That's correct. We don't give a stuff if we take the p[ii[/iss out of our supporters or not. They'd fleece their own grandmothers out of a few quid at that club.
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| Quote: Tony Stark "We have a shiny new stadium to pay for.'"
We have half the value of 2 stands to fund too.
Still a huge increase in some of the products. Just wait til the end of season sale ![Smile icon_smile.gif](images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Tbh I think the Rhinos pricing is very reasonable, probably on the cheap side. However some of those prices you are been charged are certainly at the high end!
When your out and about around the city the Leeds merchandise sales over the past couple of years seems to be booming. I suspect the pricing has a big part in that.
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| Quote: D.D. "That's correct. We don't give a stuff if we take the p[ii[/iss out of our supporters or not. They'd fleece their own grandmothers out of a few quid at that club.'"
Massively loss-making club building a new stadium - is anybody really surprised? We were clearly being overcharged for tickets at KR compared to some other clubs with vastly superior facilities; this is no different.
The Saints business model makes absolutely zero sense until we're in a new stadium - it's impossible to get the club to breakeven whilst spending full cap at the moment. Unfortunately this is one of the prices we, as fans, have to pay.
If paying an extra tenner for a fleece contributes to the club staying afloat, I don't really care. It would be different if my cash was going into the owner's pocket or to fund a leveraged buy out or whatever, but fact is that every penny counts at Saints and they are having to fleece (pardon the pun) the loyal supporters to keep the club alive until Halo Park opens.
There's another argument around the people of the town getting off their sofa or pub stool to watch the games and the club wouldn't be forced to do these things, but that's been done to death.
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| Quote: Saddened! "We could hire those vile students to trash Widnes town centre and attack Stevo's car as he arrives for our first televised game.'"
Superb marketing ploy. Put me down for 10 pairs of shorts.
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| Saints can charge what they like, and as long as people are daft enough to pay top money for cheap crap they will carry on selling it at daft prices.
The club no longer have KR as an excuse for losing money.
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| I was excited by the idea of the fitted player style of shirt, until I saw the price of it. Oversized 90's style it may have to be.
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ALEMANNIA AACHEN - HOPELESS 2011-12
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Massively loss-making club building a new stadium - is anybody really surprised? We were clearly being overcharged for tickets at KR compared to some other clubs with vastly superior facilities; this is no different.
The Saints business model makes absolutely zero sense until we're in a new stadium - it's impossible to get the club to breakeven whilst spending full cap at the moment. Unfortunately this is one of the prices we, as fans, have to pay.
If paying an extra tenner for a fleece contributes to the club staying afloat, I don't really care. It would be different if my cash was going into the owner's pocket or to fund a leveraged buy out or whatever, but fact is that every penny counts at Saints and they are having to fleece (pardon the pun) the loyal supporters to keep the club alive until Halo Park opens.
There's another argument around the people of the town getting off their sofa or pub stool to watch the games and the club wouldn't be forced to do these things, but that's been done to death.'"
For a start our crowds are very good for the size of club we are. There is a vastly over-inflated belief amongst some about what sort of crowds we should get. Ten years ago, I'd never have believed we could be averaging 11,000 to watch us in a dilapidated ground, despite paying over the odds prices.
The trouble is with fleecing the supporters, it creates bad blood and long term this is not good business. Saints business plan seems to revolve around getting everything here and now and we will worry about the future when it comes to it. Charge £35 for something and the possibility is another tenner might get spent on something else when you are there. Charge well over the odds at £45 and people won't be there to contemplate another purchase. It's just human nature.
Maybe if the club explained why the prices were so high, they'd get more sales with a bit of a sympathy vote. Try to hide it and make out the prices are normal and some people wake up to the fact that they are being treated as fools and rebel.
We know times are hard, we are aware that the club refuses to use its franking machine when it can get us to cough up and pick up stuff instead, but it goes down much better if you actually inform the people why this is happening and, even better, tell them that it is actually happening, rather than leaving them to guess.
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