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Just looked on Cherry and sh*te and saw that Wane is the fourth favourite to be the first coach sacked in 2013 (Millward, Vievers and Betts ahead of him, not sure on the order). Found that quite interesting really...questions were asked of his coaching after the Widnes game, with many Wigan fans ringing up on the phone-ins complaining! If Tomkins picks up an injury it could well be like our situation last season.

Who do you think it will be?

I'd stick money on Millward tbh. Castleford struggled last season and if they don't get off to a good start then he'll probably go. Widnes seem to want to stick by Betts, unless they gave him a season's grace? I'd be surprised if Vievers was sacked given the situation at Salford.

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I would say Millward tbh..

R1 Warrington away
R2 Leeds home
R3 Bradford away
R4 Catalan home
R5 Wigan home
R6 Hull FC away

very tough to start with that.

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Quote: Frosties. "I would say Millward tbh..

R1 Warrington away
R2 Leeds home
R3 Bradford away
R4 Catalan home
R5 Wigan home
R6 Hull FC away

very tough to start with that.'"



I dunno he could pick up a couple of wins there. Leeds and Bradford being the 2 big ones. Leeds never bother with the regular rounds anymore and they have the WCC to get ready for and Bradford could be a potential 2 pointer. If he gets 2 wins i the first 4, I can see him getting past Wigan and Hull even with defeats.

Sackings always depend on expectations, I think Wane was fairly high on the sacking list last year too, but wigans superior league form put paid to that early doors.

The Hull KR coach could be under a bit of pressure after the Justin Morgan years if he fails to make the top 8, 2 years running.

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I think Wane has by far the hardest job based on expectation vs. probable reality of his team's position. They'll be a significantly weakened squad next year and he'll no longer be able to surf the wave still left over from the Maggie years as he did last season. If Tomkins gets injured for any length of time then they could suffer quite badly...

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Quote: Northampton_Saint "I think Wane has by far the hardest job based on expectation vs. probable reality of his team's position. They'll be a significantly weakened squad next year and he'll no longer be able to surf the wave still left over from the Maggie years as he did last season. If Tomkins gets injured for any length of time then they could suffer quite badly...'"


It’s started already! OK I’ll get my little voodoo doll out and a few of the wife’s dress making pins. Now who shall it be? icon_twisted.gif

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Quote: Northampton_Saint "I think Wane has by far the hardest job based on expectation vs. probable reality of his team's position. They'll be a significantly weakened squad next year and he'll no longer be able to surf the wave still left over from the Maggie years as he did last season. If Tomkins gets injured for any length of time then they could suffer quite badly...'"


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Quote: Northampton_Saint "I think Wane has by far the hardest job based on expectation vs. probable reality of his team's position. They'll be a significantly weakened squad next year and he'll no longer be able to surf the wave still left over from the Maggie years as he did last season. If Tomkins gets injured for any length of time then they could suffer quite badly...'"


The facts from last season would back that up I think , did they manage a win without him?

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If they perform as per 2012, then its really harsh to sack him. they were top of the league for freaks sake! and only lost to one team in knock out games, hardly grounds for sacking.
I'd say our own Nathan Brown is at least as likely as wane to get sacked

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Quote: Saint Simon "If they perform as per 2012, then its really harsh to sack him. they were top of the league for freaks sake! and only lost to one team in knock out games, hardly grounds for sacking.
I'd say our own Nathan Brown is at least as likely as wane to get sacked'"



Don't talk sense, it spoils good debate. icon_lol.gif
Lenegan has never sacked a coach since he took over at Wigan.

If Wane doesn't win a trophy next year then his contract may not be renewed for 2014, which personally I think would be a shame.

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Quote: Saint Simon "I'd say our own Nathan Brown is at least as likely as wane to get sacked'"

Whether Brown gets sacked or not will depend upon how many games we lose consecutively and whether that degree of slippage annoys the chief.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Whether Brown gets sacked or not will depend upon how many games we lose consecutively and whether that degree of slippage annoys the chief.'"

which could be said of nearly every coach sacking.

or by slippage do you mean on the wet concourses ? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Don't talk sense, it spoils good debate.
very harsh again not to renew. In just one season he seems to have brought some of your younger players on really well. He did (unfortunately icon_biggrin.gif ) exceed my expectations

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