FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Tupou try
24 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
Moderator3221No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13373_1293476827.jpg
"I need to be myself, I can't be no-one else":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13373.jpg

Moderator


At the end of the day, Holbrook isn't there to make players happy, he's paid to win trophies, which means making decisions that not everyone is going to like - fans and/or players! Professional players will accept it, non professional players with throw their toys out of the pram, and there are plenty of other clubs out there for players like that.

What would you rather have - a happy bunch of 20 odd players that are all best bum chums and finish 3rd, 4th, 5th or below, or a group of hungry players that want to fight and win and work hard and finish 1st and win trophies?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44308_1279480467.gif
Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time - "You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more" Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif



Quote: Mike Oxlong "At the end of the day, Holbrook isn't there to make players happy, he's paid to win trophies, which means making decisions that not everyone is going to like - fans and/or players! Professional players will accept it, non professional players with throw their toys out of the pram, and there are plenty of other clubs out there for players like that.

What would you rather have - a happy bunch of 20 odd players that are all best bum chums and finish 3rd, 4th, 5th or below, or a group of hungry players that want to fight and win and work hard and finish 1st and win trophies?'"


Mate, he's been awful and it's down to not being fit. You can play players that unfit . He s not earned his spot in the two games, he's made mistakes, he's unfit and Danny brough and Michael Dobson will be rubbing their hands.

I'd imagine it's knocking his confidence as well. Big NRL superstar and Dally M winner playing so bad and being made to look like he has.

Holbrook should take him to one side, tell him he's not fit enough to play from start at moment and put him on bench and he can come again next year.

Let's get fit players playing in their positions and push for a semi place.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator3221No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13373_1293476827.jpg
"I need to be myself, I can't be no-one else":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13373.jpg

Moderator


Quote: St pete "Mate, he's been awful and it's down to not being fit. You can play players that unfit . He s not earned his spot in the two games, he's made mistakes, he's unfit and Danny brough and Michael Dobson will be rubbing their hands.

I'd imagine it's knocking his confidence as well. Big NRL superstar and Dally M winner playing so bad and being made to look like he has.

Holbrook should take him to one side, tell him he's not fit enough to play from start at moment and put him on bench and he can come again next year.

Let's get fit players playing in their positions and push for a semi place.'"


Again I don't disagree with you, but the question is how do you get him fit without playing him? Coming off the bench for 20 mins a week for 3 weeks isn't gonna do it - and what happens if somehow we manage to make it to the GF, he's played an hours rugby over the 4 or 5 games, and Lomax, Fages, etc goes down with a broken leg in the semi final - would be even worse to throw him in at that stage having played so few minutes.

I know it's all if's, but's and maybe's at the moment, but if he hadn't played him, we wouldn't know, and fans on the other side of the coin would be moaning saying we have a world class player that we aren't playing, so can't win either way.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44308_1279480467.gif
Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time - "You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more" Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif



Quote: Mike Oxlong "Again I don't disagree with you, but the question is how do you get him fit without playing him? Coming off the bench for 20 mins a week for 3 weeks isn't gonna do it - and what happens if somehow we manage to make it to the GF, he's played an hours rugby over the 4 or 5 games, and Lomax, Fages, etc goes down with a broken leg in the semi final - would be even worse to throw him in at that stage having played so few minutes.

I know it's all if's, but's and maybe's at the moment, but if he hadn't played him, we wouldn't know, and fans on the other side of the coin would be moaning saying we have a world class player that we aren't playing, so can't win either way.'"


You do have to play to get match fit I agree with that 200% but he's not going to get match fit this year and only 2 games to go.

Even if he did get some fitness back he will lose it all come him going home for winter if it was early season then yeah play him and get him fit for the business end bit it's Not, it's the make or break part of the year and can't carry people.

It's about the TEAM trying to win the grand final and not trying to get Ben Barba fit.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain5No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 20177 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Sep 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Not to shabby from Barba tonight... Looks like he's getting acclimatised.

24 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
24 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.35791015625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Accountability
Gazzagiant2
1
6m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
2044
10m
Planning for next season
Lower Crease
12
25m
WHO IS NEXT
Exeter Rhino
149
29m
Round 16 London Home
chapylad
87
31m
Batley next
Start@1873
3
46m
Other Championship Clubs
REDWHITEANDB
231
48m
Leeds
BigTime
35
49m
Batley Bulldogs H
FIL
15
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37903
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3143
51s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1859
51s
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
52s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9282
54s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
sergeant pep
2356
55s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
2362
1m
IMG scores
FIL
32
1m
Planning for next season
Lower Crease
12
1m
Toulouse A
Bull Mania
24
1m
email
orangeman
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Accountability
Gazzagiant2
1
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
tad rhino
3
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
chapylad
87
TODAY
Leeds
BigTime
35
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
TODAY
Batley Bulldogs H
FIL
15
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
139
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
307
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1418
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1109
Big Win for England Women Over..
853
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1099
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1196
Super League form rewarded as ..
1522
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1517
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1515
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1308
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1524
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1865
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1791
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1956
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.6M +13,246 ↓-2480,08514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     National Rugby League 2024-R18
 FT
Hover 
Canterbury
13-12
NZ Warriors
 FT
Hover 
Wests
28-40
Melbourne
 FT
Hover 
NQL Cowboys
20-22
Manly
     Womens Super League 2024-R7
 FT 
LeedsW
6-16
St.HelensW
 FT 
FeatherstoneW
0-50
WiganW
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16
 FT 
Leeds
17-16
LondonB
       Championship 2024-R14
17:00
Toulouse
v
Bradford
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16
17:30
Hull KR
v
Catalans
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R18
05:00
Sydney
v
St.George
07:05
Canberra
v
Newcastle
     Womens Super League 2024-R7
12:00
Wire W
v
Hudds W
12:00
York V
v
BarrowW
       League One 2024-R14
14:00
Newcastle
v
Workington
14:30
Crusaders
v
Midlands
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R16
15:00
Salford
v
Hull FC
       Championship 2024-R14
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Doncaster
15:00
Featherstone
v
Whitehaven
15:00
Swinton
v
Widnes
15:00
Wakefield
v
Batley
15:00
York
v
Barrow
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 6th Jul
SL
17:30
Hull KR-Catalans
SL
15:00
Leeds17-16LondonB
Sun 7th Jul
SL
15:00
Salford-Hull FC
Fri 12th Jul
SL
20:00
LondonB-Castleford
SL
20:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
20:00
Warrington-St.Helens
Sat 13th Jul
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Hull KR
SL
00:00
Leigh-Huddersfield
SL
17:30
Catalans-Salford
Wed 17th Jul
SOO
11:05
Queensland-New South Wales
Sat 17th Aug
SL
18:00
Warrington-Leeds
SL
15:30
Wigan-St.Helens
SL
13:00
Hull FC-LondonB
Sun 18th Aug
SL
13:00
Leigh-Salford
SL
15:30
Catalans-Hull KR
SL
18:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 6th Jul
NRL
LIVE
Canterbury13-12NZ Warriors
NRL
LIVE
Wests28-40Melbourne
NRL
LIVE
NQL Cowboys20-22Manly
SL
LIVE
Leeds17-16LondonB
WSL2024
LIVE
LeedsW6-16St.HelensW
WSL2024
LIVE
FeatherstoneW0-50WiganW
Fri 5th Jul
NRL 18 Cronulla16-20Gold Coast
NRL 18 Brisbane6-14Penrith
SL 16 St.Helens6-8Castleford
SL 16 Warrington48-0Huddersfield
SL 16 Wigan24-6Leigh
CH 14 Sheffield28-0Halifax
Thu 4th Jul
NRL 18 Parramatta16-32Souths
Sun 30th Jun
CH 13 Barrow0-36Wakefield
CH 13 Dewsbury12-38Bradford
CH 13 Halifax38-18Whitehaven
CH 13 Widnes16-24Batley
CH 13 York10-18Sheffield
L1 13 Cornwall10-16Crusaders
L1 13 Newcastle10-44Midlands
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 15 427 170 257 26
St.Helens 16 429 170 259 22
Warrington 16 406 213 193 22
Hull KR 15 383 201 182 22
Salford 15 295 288 7 20
Catalans 15 288 220 68 18
 
Leeds 16 291 286 5 18
Huddersfield 16 298 365 -67 12
Leigh 15 270 250 20 11
Castleford 16 246 435 -189 9
Hull FC 15 198 474 -276 4
LondonB 16 156 615 -459 2
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 13 486 142 344 26
Sheffield 14 382 217 165 22
Bradford 13 341 218 123 18
Toulouse 12 332 174 158 16
Widnes 13 315 245 70 15
Featherstone 13 330 283 47 12
 
Batley 13 205 286 -81 12
Doncaster 13 237 325 -88 11
York 14 285 293 -8 10
Whitehaven 13 266 358 -92 10
Halifax 14 270 405 -135 10
Barrow 12 203 339 -136 10
Swinton 13 260 332 -72 8
Dewsbury 14 168 419 -251 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Accountability
Gazzagiant2
1
6m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
2044
10m
Planning for next season
Lower Crease
12
25m
WHO IS NEXT
Exeter Rhino
149
29m
Round 16 London Home
chapylad
87
31m
Batley next
Start@1873
3
46m
Other Championship Clubs
REDWHITEANDB
231
48m
Leeds
BigTime
35
49m
Batley Bulldogs H
FIL
15
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37903
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
50s
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3143
51s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
1859
51s
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
52s
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
KaeruJim
9282
54s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
sergeant pep
2356
55s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
2362
1m
IMG scores
FIL
32
1m
Planning for next season
Lower Crease
12
1m
Toulouse A
Bull Mania
24
1m
email
orangeman
1
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Accountability
Gazzagiant2
1
TODAY
email
orangeman
1
TODAY
This site is crap
tad rhino
3
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Start@1873
3
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
chapylad
87
TODAY
Leeds
BigTime
35
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
TODAY
Batley Bulldogs H
FIL
15
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
139
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
307
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1418
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1109
Big Win for England Women Over..
853
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1099
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1196
Super League form rewarded as ..
1522
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1517
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1515
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1308
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1524
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1865
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1791
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1956


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!