FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Andrew Clarke
33 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star1946No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2018Oct 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: bewareshadows "If Clarkes company has advised a player to break a contract, then the line that he has done nothing wrong does not hold.'"



Has clerkes company advised him to break a contract?

Regards

King James

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member9565No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
fonds noir/Buzz Lightyear.gif
:fonds noir/Buzz Lightyear.gif



I'm with Saddened.

Sports contracts are not the same as standard employment contracts. Players want clubs to sign them up long term when it suits them. That's understandable since it provides a guaranteed income (including if they get injured) for its duration. That means long-term contracts have real value to players. If these are challenged in court and its found that there should be no penalty for walking away from a contract a player was apparently happy to sign at the time, then why on earth should clubs offer anything other than short-term contracts to any player?

In the end it would help a few players jump ship for more money, but hurt the sport as a whole and the players in aggregate.

I also don't quite understand the RFU's stance on this. They have very similar contracts, to which the same laws apply. If you can challenge a player jumping ship on the basis of moving to another sport, how long will it take before a player challenges a club and sport's ability to stop them signing for any other club in the same sport at the drop of a hat? Even if that weren't the case, can you imagine the outcry if a bunch of England RU internationals decided to do a Hayne and try the NFL, missing seasons in the process?

It may suit RU now because they are the ones doing the poaching, but that may not always be the case.

Dux
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner4411
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4750_1435141111.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4750.jpg



Quote: jaybs "Not convinced saying not your statement is sufficient, no one has evidence that Clarke encouraged, going to be an interesting day in court, If it reaches that stage, Castleford need to look closely at what they are doing. I wonder if any clubs in League encourage players to try move on?

Sport has moved on a lot, and no better examples that football, really what is a contract worth these days? if a player wants to leave he will and sadly ££££ comes first, not sure why some of the salaries that premiership football players are on.

I defend no one in this case, but I tread careful where there are serious allegations.'"

People are forever repeating this 'contracts mean nothing' mantra, but it simply isn't true. Yes, it's true that a contract no longer ensures, in practice, that a player will stay with a club for the agreed period. But what it does ensure is that if a player insists on leaving then the club is in a position to be financially compensated when he moves. Likewise, a club may, as you say, encourage a contracted player to move on, but the contract means that this player will be in a position to negotiate a healthy severance fee.

Contracts are not meaningless, but Clarke, Diamond and Solomona are currently engaged in an attempt to make them meaningless.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4958No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2022May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
1649_1338292262.jpg
I have followed the LONDON CLUB since I was in my teensl even though born in St Helens and still live nearby and went to the first game at Fulham, also Big West Ham Supporter:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1649.jpg



Quote: Dux " Contracts are not meaningless, but Clarke, Diamond and Solomona are currently engaged in an attempt to make them meaningless.'"


At the end of the day both clubs will come to some form of agreement, though after excessive money has been spent in courts and as ever the legal industry making more than anyone out of it, I'm not convinced that if their be a settlement it will be anything like being mentioned, that is life.

Feel and it has been said before you need to tread careful, even on social media, about claims which can be seen as libel, once in the public arena, even if deleted it will still be there in some form, I would tread most careful with flippant comments without clear evidence.

Dux
RankPostsTeam
Club Owner4411
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
4750_1435141111.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_4750.jpg



Quote: jaybs "At the end of the day both clubs will come to some form of agreement, though after excessive money has been spent in courts and as ever the legal industry making more than anyone out of it, I'm not convinced that if their be a settlement it will be anything like being mentioned, that is life.

Feel and it has been said before you need to tread careful, even on social media, about claims which can be seen as libel, once in the public arena, even if deleted it will still be there in some form, I would tread most careful with flippant comments without clear evidence.'"

Fair enough, and point taken. I am, of course, only expressing my view of what seems to be the case based on the information that is in the public domain, and should have made that clearer.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member16601No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2024Nov 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
cartoons/WB181.gif
:cartoons/WB181.gif



my understanding is that to deal with RL clubs agents must be licensed by the RFL, simply don't renew the licence.

33 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
33 posts in 3 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


5.19482421875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
0m
Toulouse A
Bully_Boxer
17
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
37895
3m
Leeds
Victor
31
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
60082
4m
This site is crap
Smithout
1
6m
Other Championship Clubs
Trojan Horse
220
9m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
1652
10m
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3135
15m
Round 16 London Home
Ex-Swarcliff
73
40m
Reserves
BigTime
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
9s
Surely its all over now for Watson
Jo Jumbuck
9
11s
Round 16 London Home
Ex-Swarcliff
73
15s
Other Championship Clubs
Trojan Horse
220
15s
2025 Recruitment
herr rigsby
30
23s
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3135
28s
Leigh h
apollosghost
60
33s
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
52s
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 16
Les Dyl's re
38
1m
IMG scores
FIL
32
1m
Reserves
BigTime
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
This site is crap
Smithout
1
TODAY
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win Over the Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Prettys Girls in your city for night
jackmac452
1
TODAY
Vegas Baby
Jason65
2
TODAY
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thriller
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Reserves
BigTime
2
TODAY
Tonights game v Giants
karetaker
32
TODAY
Free parking
Philth
8
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Batley next
Kettykat
2
TODAY
Round 16 London Home
Ex-Swarcliff
73
TODAY
Leeds
Victor
31
TODAY
Injuries and available cover
walter wall
12
TODAY
Problems with this Site continued
karetaker
12
TODAY
3 clubs apply to join League 1
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Sadly one less Bronco
nkpom
2
TODAY
Fan Village
[Gareth]
4
TODAY
The Seagulls v The Panthers
terry silver
20
TODAY
Las Vegas 2025 English ladies involved
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
New halfback signing
Pyrah123
11
TODAY
Batley Bulldogs H
Dr Dreadnoug
14
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Cokey
1
TODAY
Best Wigan Tour Team
MattyB
10
TODAY
Josh Bowden
Dr Dreadnoug
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Lucky Leeds Golden Point Win O..
85
Wigan Beat Leigh in Derby Thri..
272
Wakefield Trinity Register Thi..
1406
Englands Youngsters Beat Franc..
1104
Big Win for England Women Over..
848
2024 State of Origin - Game 2 ..
1088
New Structure for 2025 Challen..
1192
Super League form rewarded as ..
1520
Superb Salford Complete Histor..
1512
Catalans Dragons Survive Secon..
1509
Warrington Wolves Snatch Late ..
1303
Spirit of Rob Burrow Inspires ..
1518
Hull KR Drop Goal Secures Win ..
1861
St Helens Break Fifty As They ..
1788
Leigh Leopards Resurgence Clai..
1951