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| Quote Singing Warrior="Singing Warrior"Plus another prodigal son, Forythe a young lad who left for the greener grass of Bath RU. It's amazing how players that leave Wigan are soon pining to be back. It must be the quality of the pies. I don't doubt that Charnley and Sargison will return to the fold in another season or two.'"
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| Made up with this from a Wigan POV. Can't understand why Saints have signed him for three years. A nice bloke I'm sure but he will not worry me at all ball in hand and will be a good player to target in defence. I know for sure you have a couple of really good halfbacks in your academy. Would it not have made more sense to bring in a Gidleyesque NRL half back at the end of his career to give you a season or two of good performances whilst you blood in a youngster, whom he can mentor? I find it hard to believe Saints couldn't attract a better 7
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Made up with this from a Wigan POV. Can't understand why Saints have signed him for three years. A nice bloke I'm sure but he will not worry me at all ball in hand and will be a good player to target in defence. I know for sure you have a couple of really good halfbacks in your academy. Would it not have made more sense to bring in a Gidleyesque NRL half back at the end of his career to give you a season or two of good performances whilst you blood in a youngster, whom he can mentor? I find it hard to believe Saints couldn't attract a better 7'"
Richardson looked promising a year ago. If he still is- I'm sure Matty is just the sort of person to pair him with.
Or have you forgotten about how George Williams has been brought through by Wigan alongside Matty?
When the likes of you are so negative and insulting, he can probably console himself with his medals and caps - they don't give them away you know.
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| Quote Aboveusonlypie="Aboveusonlypie"Richardson looked promising a year ago. If he still is- I'm sure Matty is just the sort of person to pair him with.
Or have you forgotten about how George Williams has been brought through by Wigan alongside Matty?
When the likes of you are so negative and insulting, he can probably console himself with his medals and caps - they don't give them away you know.'"
 You're not seriously attributing George Williams' success to Matty Smith are you? Totally different players, Williams causes problems in attack, defends well and I can't remember him ever going missing in big games. Playing badly on the odd occasion, yes, but never going missing. Did you see the interview with Smith ahead of the Grand Final? He said words to the effect of never really getting involved in the last two Grand Finals and letting them pass him by. How can anyone accept that from a first choice scrum half at a top team?
With regards to medals, Ricky Bibey won two challenge cups, Richie Mathers won the same plus two World Club Challenges, it doesn't mean they were quality players.
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| From a Wigan POV i cant believe your happy Smith has left if the replacement is Leuluai. The blokes worse than everything Matty Smith stands for.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy":lol: You're not seriously attributing George Williams' success to Matty Smith are you? Totally different players, Williams causes problems in attack, defends well and I can't remember him ever going missing in big games. Playing badly on the odd occasion, yes, but never going missing. Did you see the interview with Smith ahead of the Grand Final? He said words to the effect of never really getting involved in the last two Grand Finals and letting them pass him by. How can anyone accept that from a first choice scrum half at a top team?
With regards to medals, Ricky Bibey won two challenge cups, Richie Mathers won the same plus two World Club Challenges, it doesn't mean they were quality players.'"
I don't miss being banned from the Wigan board but I do remember you were one of the few sensible ones on there Grimmy. You can always tell a rank average player when supporters bring up what a nice bloke he is, how he is a steadying influence on the team, how he guides them around the park. Smith is something like 30th in try assists, 17th for HBs. That's in one of the top 3 teams in SL. It's the best bit of business Wigan have done in years. I'm gutted you have got rid.
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| Quote LFC Saint="LFC Saint"From a Wigan POV i cant believe your happy Smith has left if the replacement is Leuluai. The blokes worse than everything Matty Smith stands for.'"
I've watched Tommy Leuluai this year playing in the halves for NZ Warriors and he's been very good, so good he's been selected for New Zealand in the four Nations games.
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| Let's just hope he can kick on the 3rd tackle.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I've watched Tommy Leuluai this year playing in the halves for NZ Warriors and he's been very good, so good he's been selected for New Zealand in the four Nations games.'"
Rogues his been poor. He gets absolutely slated on the official new zealand watriors forum. He was a poor half back 4 years ago. His been selected because of his versatility and experiance.
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| Quote LFC Saint="LFC Saint"From a Wigan POV i cant believe your happy Smith has left if the replacement is Leuluai. The blokes worse than everything Matty Smith stands for.'"
Are you for real. Leuluai has been holding down a regular place in a NRL side. How many current Super League halfbacks do you think could do that, certainly not (and I like and rate the guy) Matty Smith.
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| Quote Singing Warrior="Singing Warrior"Are you for real. Leuluai has been holding down a regular place in a NRL side. How many current Super League halfbacks do you think could do that, certainly not (and I like and rate the guy) Matty Smith.'"
He was holding down a permanent spot only because roger was injured so they moved lolohea to full back. That left them only sean johnson fit and he was injured nor a number of weeks.
Leuluai played his best rugby for Wigan at 9. I remember these boards well around the time he used to get slated by wigan fans for having a poor kicking game and not leading the team around the park. He had the outstanding grand final against saints that saved his bacon
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