Don't disagree! my point was when you stand firm, when the RFL allow someone highly regarded from the media to see how the disciplinary works, only one club objects that they do not want him present? that is not being open.

For far too long our game thrives from Red Hall that all is fine & we are the greatest game, I have been accused so many times about my views on Nigel Wood, I'm not really sure what he does, and his club record before joining the RFL was not that good. It saddened me to see the empty seats at Wembley yesterday, back to the 61 final and I was then just a kid in the crowd, 66, 72 etc it was difficult to get tickets, but now we can't sell out Wembley for two top clubs? but RU can get as many if not more for a club game there?

Think you are giving McManus too much credit there, discussions have been going on for a while for one media person to see how the system works, it looks a little silly for one club who are making noises about the system to say no? I am just looking at it having worked in media since leaving school.

We will have to agree to disagree Judder lol

R.U. Supporters tend to be better off financially than R.L supporters.

Perhaps so, but it is not always the case now with modern RU, are American Football supporters all better off financially as well? they fill stadium.

Pubs are closing in the North in St Helens every year pubs used to book Wembley trips at the start of the season, not bothering who was in the final, it was a day or weekend away, have those days gone? away support in Super League is not the same as it used to be, TV does not help, more so when games are moved at the last minute.

Sorry we seem to have really gone off thread! this should be about Luke Walsh.