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Quote: bewareshadows "I don't think you should be able to take the ball out.

It does not fit with the rest of the rules. If a ball was kicking in general play and bounced in field, then a player carries it into touch the scrum would go against them.
I have no idea why they made it different for a ball going dead.

If it was a catch on the full with no bounce then fair enough that would match up with the rules elsewhere on the pitch.

I'm not exactly sure were we are with ball stealing, but it's always going to be messy as defenses will want to cause attackers to lose the ball and attackers will want to offload and play the ball quickly. So there will always be an element of messiness around whether it was stripped of knocked on.'"



re the dead in goal thing, people moaned about this for years, so they changed it about 3 seasons ago, ball had to go over the line and touch the floor or the ad boards or a camera, something physical for it be deemed dead, people moaned about that and they changed it back after 12 months.

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Quote: hull2524 "play the ball is my main complaint, total shambles, if you watched 50 play the balls and 10 of them where penalties I bet nobody would get 5 right, I counted once when we played wigan our player was held down for 8 seconds and the ref let it go, the next set we held down for 4 sec and he blew up, it needs sorting'"

The flop is becoming a big bugbear of mine as well. On Friday (and before anyone pipes up: I'm not saying that only Wigan do it or that it had any bearing on the result) there were a few occasions where a player would drop onto the tackle a good two seconds after it had been completed (Tautai is one that springs to mind). It's so obvious that it can't have been missed, so it seems the referees are basically not counting it as an offence anymore. It should be stamped out as soon as possible, as it's just a way of slowing down your opponenet's play the ball without having earned the right to do so.

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Quote: Dux "The flop is becoming a big bugbear of mine as well. On Friday (and before anyone pipes up

I don't like that one either, players across the league have got away with a flop for a couple of years now, only the most ridiculous ones get penalised.

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In the NRL whilst the PTB may be cleaner you see a lot of tackles where two make the tackle and hold the attacking player up. A third comes in to 'complete' the tackle but in reality what they're doing is ensuring the tackled player hits the deck. It can actually cause problems if a third defender doesn't come in quick enough - at least once a game you see a forward continuing to make big yards after contact because the first two tacklers are in completely the wrong position to actually bring them down.

The 7 tackle restart hasn't prevented very long kicks dead - more the ones from close to halfway. We seem to be seeing more passing on the last tackle rather than kicks ATM because even if you lose the ball close the opposition line its a 6 tackle restart close to the line rather than a 7 tackle restart 20 yards out.

One rule I'd like to see trialled is for nobody in the scrum to be allowed to be involved at all in the first tackle - in fact I'd force them to stay within a few metres of the scrum. The scrum is solely a restart nowadays, and keeping forwards away from the first play might encourage a bit more adventure.

I tend to think that a lot of the problems with the entertainment quality in RL at present are down to giving coaches too much input into rule changes. They will always go for changes which increase their ability to control a game - if that's at the expense of entertainment they don't care. We need to start thinking about radical rule changes which take into account the ridiculous fitness levels of today's players.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "

One rule I'd like to see trialled is for nobody in the scrum to be allowed to be involved at all in the first tackle - in fact I'd force them to stay within a few metres of the scrum. The scrum is solely a restart nowadays, and keeping forwards away from the first play might encourage a bit more adventure.
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yup, i've said this one for years, if its packed down correctly then it gives the backs an opportunity to go against each other, i hate seeing a prop at first receiver from a scrum.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "yup, i've said this one for years, if its packed down correctly then it gives the backs an opportunity to go against each other, i hate seeing a prop at first receiver from a scrum.'"


Wigan's Crosby was not packing down correctly, he was doing it a few times in the derby match, Thaler told him to put his head into the scrum on a couple of occasions he broke away too early and managed to join the tackle third man in. Yes, I would also stop some of the backs coming into the scrum to put forwards into the defensive line.

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