At least LMS wasn't unconscious on the floor. Progress...

Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Angelic FPN is just the ticket for Wane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WAwo8pc050 www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 10oph.html'" Congratulations Hombre you once again have managed to scrape your way through the bottom of yet another barrel. As an advocate for the prosecution of FPN that's a pretty feeble effort, and anyway I don't know why you bothered. Because at the minute I think FPN is a bit of an idiot too. He's let down his team mates, the club and the fans as well. It's a hard game for hard men but some on “ALL” teams do cross the line, and it's always been so! Remember one man's “dirty sod” is another man's “you don't mess with him, he'll never take a backward step”.

Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Angelic FPN is just the ticket for Wane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WAwo8pc050 www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... 10oph.html'" Congratulations Hombre you once again have managed to scrape your way through the bottom of yet another barrel. As an advocate for the prosecution of FPN that's a pretty feeble effort, and anyway I don't know why you bothered. Because at the minute I think FPN is a bit of an idiot too. He's let down his team mates, the club and the fans as well. It's a hard game for hard men but some on “ALL” teams do cross the line, and it's always been so! Remember one man's “dirty sod” is another man's “you don't mess with him, he'll never take a backward step”.

If you watch the saints-Wigan game again, you will notice a number of tackles where saints have a 3rd man going in low to the legs to lock them together.

This isn't something only Wigan do, try and take the blinkers off.

The 'punch' was one of the softest I've ever seen, many players in the past have done far worse and not been banned.

How come Wigan with their apparent control over the RFL have been punished with a ban? It doesn'nt make sense does it - or is it just a load of crap spouted by 'outraged' fans?

This actually ed me off as a neutral, yes players get challenged running in support, but LMS wasn't running up as an option in play, he was stood getting his breath back an more importantly Nuasala hadn't got back in the defensive line and came up as a tackler, he stood still after the play the ball and subsequent turnover and went hunting, balls to the game.

Like brent webb used to, surely you can't be doing that, just switching off completely.

Every team has the 3rd man in goes around the legs, it's the modern game and kids of 15 are taught to do it.

It's a ploy to slow the play the ball down and the idea is to put the player on his back (takes longer to get up to play ball).

By no means does it mean the 3rd man cannon balls the attacking player

What concerns me is that we tried to sign FPN, did the club do their homework on him or was it a recommendation from Soliola etc. It only took a couple of google searches to find out that he does the daft stuff and has problems with his temperament, he was also some kind of gang thug in Aukland and despite Rugby League mending his ways he still can't help himself from doing the occasional off the ball stuff.

Was the club willing to take the risk of having a Vila Matautia type player rather than an Apollo Perelini one,

I would hope that if the guy turns out to be a Hock clone that he would be shown the door tout de suite! We've enough with injuries, we don't need a load of suspension added to the mix, who would?
As I've said before I don't mind a bit of rough in our game I don't think we should over sanitise it too much, a bit of lets call it rough and tumble IMO is acceptable, thuggery isn't. But thug is a nasty word that is used too much on these boards and I would say is way out of context on many occasions. The Flower's incident I think was a red mist and "brutal" act of unacceptable on field violence, of that there's no doubt, but even though I don't no the man personally I wouldn't call him a thug on or off the field. Telly has made us over scrutinise something that when we are at the game with our mates would just say “ the dirty dog” and moved on. Now he's a mindless thug even when no one's really hurt.

He hit LMS late, off the ball and when LMS wasn't looking. The epitome of thuggery.

I'm so glad we didn't sign him. He looks woeful. I wonder if greenwood has let him out of his pocket yet?

Regards

King James

Well said.