Given that these stats show that we have our worst defence in over twenty years, that clearly doesn't apply to us.




I'm not sure what you're getting at ... isn't that exactly what this thread is about?

Defences are shocking all across superleague with the PTB and ruck areas a mess, never seen so many missed upper body tackles, same goes for bad and dropped passes. We are probably getting 50 points scored in a game all entertaining stuff but this isn't a rise in standards as the intensity drops to lower levels.

If defences are poorer across the board then Saints are unable to exploit it. In 16 games we've only broke into the 40 points scored bracket once (44-4 vs Wakefield).

Our top try scorers are Greenwood (9) and Dawson (7).

You don't need stats to see we are poor in attack and poor in defence, you just need you go and watch us.

Thats because we offer a very flat attack with most times the drop off pass, our PTB is one of the messiest in the league because we don't energise to get on our front which gives Roby less options. I think we are one of the worse teams for offloads.

Our team is either scared , soft or lazy on impact in both defence and attack I think this is what puts people off this season they seem to just go through the motions which for the supporters is very boring and frustrating.

Slight adjustment needed.

Worst Saints side I've ever seen. I've been watching them since the Alex Murphy days.

I watched clapped-out old Saints has-been Soliola playing for the Raiders the other day, and he had a pretty fine game in both attack and defence, as he has most times I've watched them lately.

That sort of thing reminds me of Bayern Munich snapping up rejects like Xavi Alonso and Robben when English Premiership clubs didn't seem interested...

How I'd love him back at the club. Apart from injuries, he was brilliant for us. Vea looked like he was doing well as a replacement but he's making some shocking Turneresque tackle attempts lately.

What are you on about? Soliola left because he wanted to go back to Australia.

He went home as his dad was poorly

The fact that we have failed to compete in several games this season when this was a hallmark of Cunningham's first year is a concern. Our league position is problematic and yet I don't think it's beyond the team to put together a run of four or five wins.

Sad to say but very little of what has happened this year will matter a great deal if we tighten things up and press the accelerator. And a run of good form going into the playoffs will certainly stand us in good stead.

It's easy to write the team off but I've not seen anyone so far this season we can't turn over given a fair rub of the green.

Which means it's up to the players and coach now.