Saints fans are not the best when things are not on track, but you have to understand it's not the losing, it's the absolute rugby league saints are offering up every week.
Lms seems to be the only player that cares, Wilkin blows hot and cold, Roby has been run into the ground, lomax offers a glimmer of hope as does fages, but this has to be the worst coached saints team I have seen.

Was the Royce Simmons team this bad???

And KC has quoted he is in charge of recruitment. The legend has to go or be given another role with a saints standard experienced coach that can bring the entertainers tag back to saints.
Even the neutral fans miss the old style of saints.

On a side note, salary cap and general marketing for rugby league is a huge issue for the standard of the game. Also commentary on sky needs improving.
Super league as a whole should be a much bigger product by now.

Not being able to get to the match very often (if at all), I tend to rely on Sky's coverage to keep up with Saints. I am currently mulling over cancelling the Sports package. The football season is over and Saints just bore the @rse off me. My girlfriend, who was really up for following Saints with me when we started dating rarely shows any interest in watching them now either.

It may not cost the club money in terms of ticket revenue lost, but Eammon needs to know that he is losing fans; fans that have followed the team for the majority of their lives and spent a hell of a lot of money doing so.

Its all about high standards at this club which in the fully professional era is very much in high demand by the supporter base. There is also the style "Saints Way" of playing the game with or without high profile players. All the criticism last season and this season is our attitude, effort, commitment etc which is seriously lacking be it recruitment, coaching, players this is very much when we are winning as well as losing.
For the last 20 years Saints have been a top 4 club and the supporters are now sending the message out to the club that this slippage is not acceptable, Wigan and Leeds are now going through a similar scenario, the main reason is probably the quality of players available. The less profile clubs have recruited very well but they are not a good enough quality to raise the standard of Superleague.
For example I would like to see a better quality player playing this season who are superior than these who all played in the same seasonal era.


Keith Senior
Martin Gleeson
Iestyn Harris
Lee Briers
Sean Long
Stuart Fielden
Kieran Cunningham
James Graham
Adrian Morley
Gareth Hock
Paul Sculthorpe
Jamie Peacock
Kevin Sinfield
Paul Anderson

And these are just british players, overseas players are just the same.

Really getting bored of these David v Goliath battles. Think that's three us Hull fans have now had to endure against you this season.

This thread should be named after Jordan Turner's defence.