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| Quote St pete="St pete"We need other positions more then a winger imo'"
We need several things, but IMO a big winger is one of them. Vatuvei is about as good as we could get in that category.
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| Quote Dux="Dux"We need several things, but IMO a big winger is one of them. Vatuvei is about as good as we could get in that category.'"
Will he get any ball?
I think we do need a winger but imo a top quality centre, a top quality 7 and two forwards are needed much more than a winger
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Player Coach | 673 | St. Helens |
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| So long as it is quality they can sign who they like.
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| Quote Starman="Starman"Us spending presumably big money on him is like buying a new flash car when you already have a car and the kids are starving. There are other areas that should be priorities. We need a centre, a hooker and at least 2 forwards. We're either wasting a bunch of our cap on a 30 year old winger who will play for us for 2 or 3 years or we're going to turn him into a centre instead of signing a specialised centre which for me would be another mistake.
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Great opening analogy. Spot On.
Classic Saints Panic Buy. Wrong on so many levels.
Agents must wet themselves when the phone rings and its Saints.
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| Quote Starman="Starman"Us spending presumably big money on him is like buying a new flash car when you already have a car and the kids are starving. There are other areas that should be priorities. We need a centre, a hooker and at least 2 forwards. We're either wasting a bunch of our cap on a 30 year old winger who will play for us for 2 or 3 years or we're going to turn him into a centre instead of signing a specialised centre which for me would be another mistake.
It seems incredibly short term thinking and just signing a name for the sake of it. I'd be very disappointed if we were to let one of Swift or Makinson go (who could be our wingers for the next 5 years) when neither are a major issue just to sign this fella.'"
I disagree. One of the reasons (not the only one) our forwards are getting smashed is that our tiny back three keep getting sat on their behinds on the first 2-3 tackles. Our sets aren't getting started. Having a winger like Vatuvei would go a long way to changing that IMO. Then that has a knock on (excuse the probably quite apt pun) effect: win the contact in the early tackles and you get quicker play the balls, meaning more opportunity to move the ball.
Also, there's no reason why we can't sign Vatuvei and sign other players too.
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| Exactly a signing we need. Our wingers are too powder puff and just cannot get us out of our own 20 to give us some momentum on kick returns.
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| my priority would be hooker to spell Roby above all else.
Big winger would be welcome, but I think a top centre would be priority over winger especially with the man of steel contender Owens now playing on the wing
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| The Mole says - no chance of him signing for St Helens.
We will probably end up with Tom Armstrong or another championship standard player
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| The guy is clearly a unit but having watched a lot of him in the NRL, he has one fundamental flaw in his game and that's his lack of consistency under the high ball. He's as bad if not worse than Meli in that regard. For someone to command a 3 year deal on big bucks, I'd expect him to be a bit more secure in what is a wingers primary job.
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| Ah Meli, those were the days of roll a dice catches.
Our current crop can catch a ball but apart from swift we don't seem to cover the distance we should even with vast quantities of space infront of them.
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| Quote The Chief="The Chief"The guy is clearly a unit but having watched a lot of him in the NRL, he has one fundamental flaw in his game and that's his lack of consistency under the high ball. He's as bad if not worse than Meli in that regard. For someone to command a 3 year deal on big bucks, I'd expect him to be a bit more secure in what is a wingers primary job.'"
Super league is inferior than the NRL so I think he would do a good job at centre with another signed big winger along side him. We need some very big quality players for centre, wing and prop position.
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