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Quote: Saddened! "Lomax - Largely anonymous, feeling his way back in
Dawson - Did nothing wrong, nothing particularly right either, his usual self
Percival - Pretty poor
Peyroux - An absolute farce of a signing, offers absolutely nothing a generic academy player couldn't
Owens - An absolute disgrace again. Fat, unfit, lazy, poor motivated
Fages - Poor, but we'll let him off
Walsh - Decent again I thought. Getting some of his confidence back, improving
Walmsley - Needs a week off. Shocking today, totally dominated yet again
Roby - Bettered again by his opposite number, he's definitely over the crest of the hill now
Amor - Hard working as ever, but bullied by bigger, stronger forwards as ever
Vea - Very poor, needs to be released
Greenwood - Some good lines, but defends like a child
Wilkin - A few good hard runs in the second half, but some absolutely pathetic attempts to tackle. Needs to be released pronto

Richards - I'd love to know what this useless lump has over KC. He's pathetic, fat and lazy. Thompson, Savelio etc can't get in the side?
LMS - Class again, genuinely the only Saints player who cares
Knowles - Decent young forward. Should be getting more gametime along with Thompson and Savelio at the expense of Wilkin, Tasi, Richards etc
Tasi - Another useless signing. Big unit yet runs like a nun. Needs releasing ASAP

Not much to be positive about was there?'"


I think, for once, you've pretty much nailed that!

I know lomax has just come back from injury but thought he was very poor, I found myself looking for him wondering if he'd gone off injured. It will take him time to be fair. I'm not a fan of this swapping the defenders around, he moves to the wing in D or whatever they keep doing. It's pretty pathetic, if he's fit to play, he's fit to be in the role of full back....he offers so much more than dawson and owens bringing it back.

Peyroux...laughable. Couldn't even get in the NZ warriors team and saints sign him....just incredible. Same for Tasi, if Salford don't want to keep him then pretty sure he's not good enough for us. Having said that, Tasi is a strange one, I've watched him in the NRL and he was fantastic at times....he has literally been so poor for us, its embarrassing.

I can't talk about Owens and Dawson else I'll end up headbutting my laptop.

I think harsh on Roby, not much he can do on the back of the pussy forwards we have. On the odd occasion we had a quick play the ball, he was onto it....it just hardly ever happened.

Vea...people really rate him, but has he ever been that good? I'm not so sure.

Richards...haha!

Don't be confused by LMS either, granted he probably was the best player with the most enthusiasm but still nothing special....you really do get drawn into that pathetic over the top reactions he does. Don't get me wrong, I'm keen to see passion, but does no one else think it's just so fake, it actually annoys me....you can see the other players rolling their eyes at him. Now, if he does it in the big games against the big teams (I suppose Hull now are) then I'll take it back, but he rarely does. Bang average and not good enough for Saints IMO.

The difference yesterday was the control of the ruck, saints didn't get them on their back like they did to us...hence why Houghton looked so good. For god sake, I would look good with their speed of the play the ball and no markers in position. It was just easy for Hull. Is it me or are we never in position in the markers? Someone is always on the floor or not square, whats going on?!

At the end of the day, the team across the park, could potentially be ok and challenge...I think a new coach would be good and saints could really turn this season around. Obviously not going to happen. We'll finish around 6th and lose in the play offs...zzzzzzz

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The biggest game of the season for us (lets face it: we have never been this far away from winning the grand final) and we put our worst performance in. Questions have to be asked.

Those questioning Roby are insane. Honestly, what do you expect him to do? He's good, but he's not THAT good

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Quote: Albion "Those questioning Roby are insane. Honestly, what do you expect him to do? He's good, but he's not THAT good'"


Insane? I don't see how really. He's been a legend for us over the years and his performances have been perhaps amongst the most consistent of any of our elite players over the decades. But time waits for no man and a man flogged irresponsibly since Cunningham retired will obviously feel the effects of that. It is without question that Roby is no longer the player he once was. He's not hitting as hard in defense, he's not making as many runs and he's not as dynamic or dangerous when making them now. Sure, he's having to struggle extra hard because we have such a beaten pack, but that's not the only reason his performances are not what they were. I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it. He's class and will continue to be next season as well no doubt. But he's not the top hooker in Super League any more. He's not even the best British hooker anymore. He's not even in the top 3 anymore. This is another area Saints are massively failing on, he needs to be replaced now, not in two years. Signing a 32 year old Kiwi who plays less than Gary Wheeler isn't the answer either.

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Quote: Saddened! "Insane? I don't see how really. He's been a legend for us over the years and his performances have been perhaps amongst the most consistent of any of our elite players over the decades. But time waits for no man and a man flogged irresponsibly since Cunningham retired will obviously feel the effects of that. It is without question that Roby is no longer the player he once was. He's not hitting as hard in defense, he's not making as many runs and he's not as dynamic or dangerous when making them now. Sure, he's having to struggle extra hard because we have such a beaten pack, but that's not the only reason his performances are not what they were. I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it. He's class and will continue to be next season as well no doubt. But he's not the top hooker in Super League any more. He's not even the best British hooker anymore. He's not even in the top 3 anymore. This is another area Saints are massively failing on, he needs to be replaced now, not in two years. Signing a 32 year old Kiwi who plays less than Gary Wheeler isn't the answer either.'"



Probably not the top world hooker but easily in the top.2 in SL.

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I made this point on another thread regarding Roby. I have the utmost respect for him and what he does for the team, but should your clubs marquee player really be someone who makes 40+ tackles per game and who's impact is so heavily reliant on the performance of his 5 other forwards? Surely a marquee should be a match winner? Someone who can turn a game on his own? As much as Roby is quality, im not sure he would fall into that category.

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Quote: Saddened! "Insane? I don't see how really. He's been a legend for us over the years and his performances have been perhaps amongst the most consistent of any of our elite players over the decades. But time waits for no man and a man flogged irresponsibly since Cunningham retired will obviously feel the effects of that. It is without question that Roby is no longer the player he once was. He's not hitting as hard in defense, he's not making as many runs and he's not as dynamic or dangerous when making them now. Sure, he's having to struggle extra hard because we have such a beaten pack, but that's not the only reason his performances are not what they were. I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it. He's class and will continue to be next season as well no doubt. But he's not the top hooker in Super League any more. He's not even the best British hooker anymore. He's not even in the top 3 anymore. This is another area Saints are massively failing on, he needs to be replaced now, not in two years. Signing a 32 year old Kiwi who plays less than Gary Wheeler isn't the answer either.'"


Perhaps KC could make it his next project and put Turner there?

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