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| KC is on a loser with respect to Fages whatever happens. If KC keeps him until he's ready and then Fages plays brilliantly, we'll all say Fages should have played earlier. If he doesn't play brilliantly we'll all say he was a poor signing. Who'd be a coach?
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| Quote Simeon Stylites="Simeon Stylites"KC is on a loser with respect to Fages whatever happens. If KC keeps him until he's ready and then Fages plays brilliantly, we'll all say Fages should have played earlier. If he doesn't play brilliantly we'll all say he was a poor signing. Who'd be a coach?'"
Nonsense. If he's not ready for Super League after 60 appearances then he never will be. He should have played from the start of the season without this messing about period.
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| Is this the same Salford which was a laughing stock for practically all of last season? The same Salford which threatened to redefine the meaning of the word "shambles"?
We're saying that sixty games playing under Salford's regime is EQUIVALENT to sixty games at Saints?
[iSeriously?[/i
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Is this the same Salford which was a laughing stock for practically all of last season? The same Salford which threatened to redefine the meaning of the word "shambles"?
We're saying that sixty games playing under Salford's regime is EQUIVALENT to sixty games at Saints?
[iSeriously?[/i'"
It's 66 games at super league level and that's a fact. It's 63 games at super league level more than Knowles.
Fages also played for France 7 times.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Is this the same Salford which was a laughing stock for practically all of last season? The same Salford which threatened to redefine the meaning of the word "shambles"?
We're saying that sixty games playing under Salford's regime is EQUIVALENT to sixty games at Saints?
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How is 60 games for Salford different to 60 games for Saints ? they play the same teams don't they ?
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| Quote brook40="brook40"How is 60 games for Salford different to 60 games for Saints ? they play the same teams don't they ?'"
It's different because since the beginning of SL the demand that players [uAT THE VERY LEAST[/u are expected to finish in a playoff slot and get damned close to an Old Trafford appearance is what Saints players deal with as a matter of routine and Salford players demonstrably do not.
To be honest I'm amazed I need to illustrate this point. It's like saying 60 games playing for Manchester City or Chelsea or Barcelona or Real Madrid is equivalent to 60 games playing for AFC Bournemouth or Levante. 
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| Some might say playing 66 games for Salford as a young kid in a side that's struggled yet he's stood out Is harder than playing 66 games for Saints with its so called best pack in super league and all its strike players
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"
To be honest I'm amazed I need to illustrate this point. It's like saying 60 games playing for Manchester City or Chelsea or Barcelona or Real Madrid is equivalent to 60 games playing for AFC Bournemouth or Levante.
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Not quite, its more like 60 game Liverpool struggling for top 4 against 60 game Newcastle struggling in the bottom 4. I seem to remember Fages played a couple of games as the lone creative player when Salford suffered quite a few injuries and suspensions.
I can only assume Fages is currently being "de-coached" to suit our restrictive game plans.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Not quite, its more like 60 game Liverpool struggling for top 4 against 60 game Newcastle struggling in the bottom 4. I seem to remember Fages played a couple of games as the lone creative player when Salford suffered quite a few injuries and suspensions.
I can only assume Fages is currently being "de-coached" to suit our restrictive game plans.'"
Isn't the most obvious explanation that he's just not impressing sufficiently in training?
From what I remember Fages was very raw showing glimpses of talent whilst making some pretty fundamental blunders - especially in defence. Given all the hullabaloo we've seen in this forum over the last twelve months about "defensively weak" Saints players I find it amazing that so many folk are on their knees pleading for Fages' inclusion.
He certainly wasn't consistent enough to hold down a first team position at Salford - which is hardly an encouraging sign. Given that consistency of performance is one of the hardest facets of a player's game to address (requiring significant mental readjustments which many players just aren't able or willing to sign on to) it shouldn't surprise anyone that Cunningham isn't in a rush.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Isn't the most obvious explanation that he's just not impressing sufficiently in training?
From what I remember Fages was very raw showing glimpses of talent whilst making some pretty fundamental blunders - especially in defence. Given all the hullabaloo we've seen in this forum over the last twelve months about "defensively weak" Saints players I find it amazing that so many folk are on their knees pleading for Fages' inclusion.
He certainly wasn't consistent enough to hold down a first team position at Salford - which is hardly an encouraging sign. Given that consistency of performance is one of the hardest facets of a player's game to address (requiring significant mental readjustments which many players just aren't able or willing to sign on to) it shouldn't surprise anyone that Cunningham isn't in a rush.'"
KC praised the hell out of fages in pre season and said he's fitted in very well. Doesn't sound like someone who's not impressed in training.
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"Isn't the most obvious explanation that he's just not impressing sufficiently in training?
From what I remember Fages was very raw showing glimpses of talent whilst making some pretty fundamental blunders - especially in defence. Given all the hullabaloo we've seen in this forum over the last twelve months about "defensively weak" Saints players I find it amazing that so many folk are on their knees pleading for Fages' inclusion.
He certainly wasn't consistent enough to hold down a first team position at Salford - which is hardly an encouraging sign. Given that consistency of performance is one of the hardest facets of a player's game to address (requiring significant mental readjustments which many players just aren't able or willing to sign on to) it shouldn't surprise anyone that Cunningham isn't in a rush.'"
Are the club paying you for this? All you've done for the past week is blindly defend them on about 6 different threads. It's cringeworthy.
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