Leeds for me, too. Firstly, they are not Wigan (and that's reason enough). Secondly, it's been a privilege to watch their key players, Sinfield and Peacock especially, despite the pain they've inflicted on us. I'd like to think this is Sinfield's last hurrah, but I have a suspicion that there might be more pain to come in the shape of Sinfield as a clever and successful Leeds coach of the future.

I see Matty Smith is at it as well.



Well, what a hero. What bravery he showed when he was mercilessly sent off, ruining his hard work and dreams. How fitting would it be to see him finally right the wrong and win at OT.

I'd expect such utter nonsense from Wane, as he hasn't got the intelligence to do anything with any grace or thought. But Matty Smith? I guess he's gone full Goon hasn't he.

I'm with you, mate. Totally agree. It's embarrassing and shows a lack of class.

I think it's called being a team mate.
What should he say on the eve of a final? Should he say castrate him for being at twonk?
Get a grip.

He could be more respectful. Nothing wrong with, "Oh we just want to forget about it. Tomorrow is about the fans, not me not Ben". Or "I don't really want to talk about that, tomorrow is about winning for the supporters, he let them down and we want to make up for that". You don't have to criticise him, but you don't have to try so hard to glorify it either.

Wane has claimed last years Grand Final was a moral victory for Wigan. Punching an unconscious man is a moral victory? You can't see why this comes across as disrespectful and inappropriate? I agree that it shouldn't define this Grand Final as well as last years, so why mention it? Why give the press and the PR men words to sensationalise and write about? Why not either deflect it as I did expertly above, or refuse to talk about it? Why pretend it was something it clearly wasn't?

"Last year was a moral victory for us, with 12 men. If I was Saints, I'd have been disappointed to only win by that score."


His team are playing Leeds but he still can't help having a pop at us can he? He's obsessed with us.

I can't and won't disagree that ideally the Wigan squad should deflect from answering questions on the issue but maybe it's more difficult to do so in the heat of an interview.
SW stated that playing for 78 minutes and getting so close was a moral victory.
The guy quite rightly got 6 months and if had been 12 I personally wouldn't have complained however, he has taken his punishment and ideally as a game we should move but the bone idle national press won't allow it.
I think as opposing fans we will have great difficulty in agreeing on this one.
Flower effectively took away the chance of Wigan winning last year but to give the lad his due he has got his game back on track and for me that has taken a great deal of character in doing so.
At 25/1.for MOM he represents great value if you fancy a punt.

I want Leeds to win as I never want Wigan to win anything

If the ref allows Wigan to slow the PTB down they will win. It's up to Leeds to force there own tactics on the ref from the startand set the pace of the game

ISIS Sharks?

Can you imagine if Flower got sent off again. Will he be targeted by Leeds?