And combined they probably cost less than Peyroux and did need to be flown over and given a Mike Rush house to live in.

Prepared to give him a chance but he has all the tell tale signs of a complete dud.

At best he could become a Flannery which is not much of compliment.
A Derek McVey , Freddie T , George Mann, Apollo he ain't.

To be honest, I'm not sure he needs to be up to Flannery's standard to fulfill his obligations. Bear in mind that Flannery was an experienced State of Origin player with a solid track record in the NRL.

I'm completely baffled why a guy we are getting on the cheap to replace a bit-part player whose recent form scarcely warrants first team inclusion can generate page after page of outrage.

Before damning Peyroux before he's played so much as a game people really need to think seriously about Josh Jones' current standard of rugby. There isn't a cat in hell's chance that Jones (at his current level) would be a first team player at the Warriors.

If we've signed a guy the Warriors are prepared to play first grade (no matter his performance) - then it tells me Saints have bought a better player for wages they weren't prepared to give Jones. In other words - a win.

But seriously, we're talking about perhaps the 20-oddth most important player in a Saints shirt next season. Talk about outrage overkill...

Sean Long

Chances are that Longy has a better eye for talent then I do. But from what I have seen so far I haven't noticed anything impressive, and I say that as someone generally quite positive about the club

Presumably Long has worked with him in the Samoa setup in the last couple of years, so probably knows him pretty well.

You never know with these overseas lads, some come big reputations and big wage bills and fail to deliver, whereas some come with no expectation and turn out to be outstanding signings. Many more, of course, come with no reputation and turn out to be turnips.

Josh Perry looked like a world beater...a big, aggressive, State of Origin hard nut who knocked Jamie Peacock off his perch when he tried it with him and he WAS the worst overseas signing we ever made imo...

If Long has worked with him in the Samoa set up he must have seen something in the lad to want to bring him over here, and will reserve judgement on him until he has played for us. As said above, a lot of players have looked great in the NRL and come over as complete failures

I'm sure I read HES only played 2 games for samoa.

I don't think Shane Cooper played a single game in the ARL.

Same goes for many successful Kiwis during the eighties and early nineties.

3 I believe, but they will have also had training camps etc where a coach will be able to see things from a player just as easily in a game. In all honesty, I havent seen enough of the guy to comment whether he will be good or not for us. My point is that a lot of big name, international "stars" have come over and been terrible so to judge a guy before he has pulled our shirt on and played is a bit harsh imo

Hopefully it will be the case that, since h's not an established star, he wont take anything for granted and give 100% whilst at the same time, the fact he's got NRL experience may buoy his confidence enough to increase his performance.

Fingers crossed. He does seem like the Samoan Matty Dawson.

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