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| Quote: Mugwump "This is pure revisionist nonsense. Our forward pack - which is largely THIS season's forward pack - was the foundation stone of our entire championship-winning season. For heaven's sake - they must have been pretty special for us to be crowned champions [iwithout a single functioning playmaker on the pitch at Old Trafford[/i. This was after we had soundly beaten into the ground every single pack at the top of the table during the run-in to final. Name me one - JUST ONE - side which has succeeded under more testing conditions in the entire history of SL.
If success is measured by whether or not you win the title (and it most certainly is) then no. There's absolutely NOTHING "mythological" here. Both you & St. Pete are a completely new breed of fan - Apologists for Winning.
For some strange & twisted reason you seem more enthused by us losing than winning. On those (rare) occasions when we are outplayed in the forwards you simply cannot wait to gleefully state the obvious - despite the fact that NO PACK has EVER dominated every single game in a competition since records began.
Seriously, which packs would you exchange ours for? Wigan's? (laughable) Warrington's? (ridiculous). Aside from Leeds' forwards (this season - but certainly not last) there isn't a single forward pack in SL I'd look twice at.
In any case - a pack can be defeated through reasons largely beyond its control. Having one of the worst half-back combinations in the competition is about as good an excuse as any I can think of.
There is nothing - NOTHING wrong with our pack which wouldn't be put right by the addition of just ONE halfback functioning at or close to what Walsh achieved prior to injury last season. That and a little more experience in the head of the coach.
To be honest I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond. The truth is we could go unbeaten until the final hooter at Old Trafford and you'd still think nothing of this team's obvious virtues. After all - you did the very same last season.
Will you sort harping on about last season? It was a fantastic achievement and I was made up being a Saints fan. To suggest I enjoy us losing is just silly.
It's 2015 now Muggers. It doesn't matter what happened last season it's irrelevant now.
When they chose the SL team of the year, how many of our amazing forward line will they consider? The answer is Roby and Walmsley.
When McNamara picks his squad, Roby, Walmsley and at a stretch maybe Greenwood might sneak in.
Take Walmsley out of our forwards this season and we'd be much lower down the table. The man has been amazing this season. God forbid if he got injured, who would step up and do what he does?
Believe it or not, other teams have very good forwards. Leeds, you knock Wigan but they're performing better than ours!! Huddersfield have a strong set of forwards. Cas do!!! You knock Wire but they're no slouches with Hill, Sims, Westwood, Currie etc
I love my team, but I'm not blind to their deficiencies.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: Simeon Stylites "See clause 1.5 of the AUP, which expressly forbids posting other people's personal details, including identity. It's OK for Mugwump to do that, but you may not infer from that that he has given you, or anyone else, permission to do the same.
In any case it's irrelevant to the argument.'"
My bad, I didn't know that so I apologise to Geoff. Sorry.
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Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
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| Quote: St pete "My bad, I didn't know that so I apologise to XXXXX Sorry.'"
Try again if you really want!!
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| Forget about it.
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44308_1279480467.gif Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
"You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more"
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| Quote: Mugwump "Forget about it.'"
Thank you
I'm seriously sorry for it and didnt think.
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2595.jpg I'm not Jesus Christ, I've come to accept that now.
[quote][b]XBrettKennyX wrote:[/b] Once more the anti SC brigade, purposely or otherwise fail to see the point.
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| Our pack has underachieved this year due to two factors mainly, poor half back play and poor tactics. They've still been the main reason for most of our wins and us still being in games that we've lost. Other teams do have decent packs, but none of the top teams have had half backs quite as dysfunctional as ours have been this year (apart from maybe Wire, but their pack is poor).
Each team will have individuals who you'd take, Peacock at Leeds for example, but as a whole I think we do have the best pack in the league, and that's with Masoe only showing in fits and starts.
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