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| Quote: saint at wire "What is the point in KC saying he will use the big stick when he uses a feather duster to show his players that poor performances means you are dropped.
I'm prepared to give him and the two halves a last benefit of the doubt and hope I am eating my words at 10 pm on Thursday. TM will play.'"
I think he mentioned he would drop players if they were replaceable, he hasn,t got replacements if he dropped Walsh, Burns, Mose. Could be different once we have Vea and Wilkin back. For me it was just a shot across the bows from KC for the under performers to get there finger out.
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| Quote: Blobbynator "If that's the best we can come up with Burns, then we're screwed. '"
Look, I'm not exactly jumping over the moon about Burns, either. But unless we are going to cut the guy loose (expensive) we're just going to have to learn to live with his limitations.
Right now he's fit. Which is more than we can say about Walsh. And we know that Burns & Wilkin can function as an effective partnership. Indeed, Saints' best form was with that pairing.
Sans any other suggestions I think we should go with those two and take Walsh out of the firing line. Who knows - maybe a few weeks away from the pressure will be the spur he needs. I bloody hope so.
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| Quote: Albion "Quinlan is awful. He's so average and bar a couple of breaks (albeit one match winner vs Warrington) he's been bang average. I'd rather have Dawson on the wing with swift at full back I think...'"
To be fair to Quinlan - he was always on a loser coming into a club at such short notice with the kind of creative difficulties we are experiencing.
Most oversees players need anywhere between six and twelve months to find their feet. Given that no-one in Australia seems all that sure about whether he's a half or a back it's lunacy to expect him suddenly to start tearing up it up.
On a wet pitch his size is a real problem, tho. Personally I think he should have come forward a bit more often and provided some kind of variation out of the dummy half. He is pretty quick over the first twenty and he has very good hands. At least it would have made Huddersfield think twice about stacking up to defend against Roby all the time.
The funny thing is against Warrington he did precisely that. And it worked. Whether he was told not to go forward - or he just couldn't be d, who knows?
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| Quote: Mugwump "To be fair to Quinlan - he was always on a loser coming into a club at such short notice with the kind of creative difficulties we are experiencing.
Most oversees players need anywhere between six and twelve months to find their feet. Given that no-one in Australia seems all that sure about whether he's a half or a back it's lunacy to expect him suddenly to start tearing up it up.
On a wet pitch his size is a real problem, tho. Personally I think he should have come forward a bit more often and provided some kind of variation out of the dummy half. He is pretty quick over the first twenty and he has very good hands. At least it would have made Huddersfield think twice about stacking up to defend against Roby all the time.
The funny thing is against Warrington he did precisely that. And it worked. Whether he was told not to go forward - or he just couldn't be d, who knows?'"
I don't disagree with what you say apart from the size bit. It doesn't bother the likes of Matty Bowen, Lomax etc
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| Quote: Mugwump "Look, I'm not exactly jumping over the moon about Burns, either. But unless we are going to cut the guy loose (expensive) we're just going to have to learn to live with his limitations.'"
Just a thought, and probably not for this season but the following two years of his contract: might Burns give us better service as a rotation hooker? It would suit his competitiveness and would take pressure off his decision making in defence. Then we could slot someone else into 6, whether that's young Richardson or a signing (*cough*Eastmond*cough*).
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| Quote: Dux "Just a thought, and probably not for this season but the following two years of his contract
When you think about it Burns started to lose form when Walsh returned to the side, the first 6 weeks of the season Burns went OK not fantastic but kept the team ticking over. Walsh returns with mental doubt about his injury, could,t get back to last seasons form and Burns no longer knows what his role is in the team, so who is responsible for this situation were our halves play like total strangers with each other.
I don't think the answer is terminating their contracts but to get it fixed, Walsh and Burns can't really play any other position than in the halves. Richardson could be 2 seasons away from being a first team player, the only cost effective option is to go lower league, could possibly go for the much improved Gaskell from Bradford who could play fullback, centre, stand off and scrum half.
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