I'm not sure he does need more size because his technique is outstanding. Its common to look at a slight build rugby player and generically say he needs to be bigger, but look at how he man handled Minichello on a number of occasions tonight.

The lad is quality and a partnership with Makinson would be something that can be developed over the years to come. I agree with the above and if he can build upon his strength he could be as dangerous as Watkins.

What is concerning is that the ball isn't in his hands nearly enough.

I sometimes wonder whether he could shine at stand off.

I wonder whether he's ever done martial arts. His tackling style practically screams Judo insofar as he's always looking to use his opponent's momentum against him. Some of the double-handed throws he's executed recently (attacking the far shoulder with two hands and then pivoting the guy over his own centre of gravity) require split-second decision making and demonstrate a remarkable degree of hand-eye co-ordination, athleticism - not to mention self-confidence.

The closest I've seen would be Tommy Martyn, who was an absolute master at "unconventional defence" and probably knew more ways of bringing an opponent down (one of which being his expertly executed "Cumberland Throw"icon_wink.gif than a Shaolin monk, and Gary Connelly - whose upperbody strength meant once he got an arm on you you'd need acetyline burning gear to break free of it.

I seem to remember the Saints (kids) v Leeds game at Langtree when Percival had Carl Ablett in "his pocket", Percival made the Leeds player very in effective during that game.

I remember it well.