I see the local experts are out in force. Percy isn't as good as Watkins, Sinfield better than all of our halves etc etc.

Well, pray tell, how did Watkins end up so good ? Because they stuck with a hugely talented kid and now he's a top player. You know, kind of what Saints are doing now in umpteen positions. Hall was another talented kid and look at him. Hardaker they took a chance on a lad from Featherstone, who has turned into a cracker. Moon a signing from Salford, where funnily enough we've just signed Tasi from, a man whom hasn't even got here yet and the resident experts have already christened 'our Tautai'.

Sinfield, Burrow, McGuire etc etc, are all products of Leeds. That doesn't happen too often. Had Leeds had to go out and sign such on field generals, they'd be nowhere near the same quality because they're unattainable. This kind of tripe that Saints need to go out and sign all of these players to compete is a fine narrative but where are they ? Rather than bemoaning the players we have give us alternatives.

Luke Walsh was voted 7th in the Dally M the year we signed him. Travis Burns one of the top 6s in the comp and had a choice of us or Wigan. Walmsley is arguably the best prop in the country, Roby probably the best player in the country, Vea and Greenwood looked superb strike threats before both being decimated with injury, Turner is our top try scorer etc etc.

Leeds have a nucleus of experienced, big game players that know exactly what they're doing. That's why we lost Friday. They're better than we are, it's that simple. Does that mean it's the end of the world ? No, it doesn't.

Some of our supporters don't deserve the club they support. Any mug holding Warrington up as some form of shining example needs their head testing. Leeds are a shining example but let's see how they look next year without Sinfield and Peacock.

I don't think Shane Cooper played a single game in the ARL.

Same goes for many successful Kiwis during the eighties and early nineties.

3 I believe, but they will have also had training camps etc where a coach will be able to see things from a player just as easily in a game. In all honesty, I havent seen enough of the guy to comment whether he will be good or not for us. My point is that a lot of big name, international "stars" have come over and been terrible so to judge a guy before he has pulled our shirt on and played is a bit harsh imo

Hopefully it will be the case that, since h's not an established star, he wont take anything for granted and give 100% whilst at the same time, the fact he's got NRL experience may buoy his confidence enough to increase his performance.

Fingers crossed. He does seem like the Samoan Matty Dawson.

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I wouldn't read too much into that article. The Warriors stink as a club in terms of attitude. They had a chance to break into the upper echelons when Daniel Anderson was there, but the club buckled to player power and have suffered ever since. The appointment of a rookie in McFadden has been a predictable disaster. The Warriors players helped get rid of Matt Elliott, then performed (a bit) for McFadden, who then got the gig. Since then the players have again cruised through two seasons.

The best hope for the Warriors is to get a genuinely experienced coach in and have the club back him, including dumping some of the players that seem to think its all about showboating and not about winning.