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Quote: Blobbynator "
The only thing I'd add is Jon Wilkin's performance. I thought he was excellent last night and looks much better in back row where he's not relied upon to be our creative player. He can still throw a pass on the edge but running off Burns and Walsh he was hitting some really strong lines and making good yards with the ball.'"


Fully agree with this. I mentioned that he will be looking forward to defending as a middle again before the match and he relished it, I imagine his tackle stats were high. He isn't cut out for defending on the edges and teams were starting to notice it, especially Leeds. He was superb last night both in his running and his defense around the ruck.

The other player who was superb was Kevin Brown. Had he had his head screwed on as a young lad at Wigan, he could have been up there with the best.

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Quote: Saint Simon "Maybe we've moved T-Mak to FB because we know Lomax is done? Perhaps KC feels Tommy can learn his trade at FB in the next few months before the real part of the season kicks in?'"


He was moved to fullback because there was no one else.

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "His kick returns is equally likely to be exposed as a winger as opposed a fullback, and not a reason to keep him in one position over the other.

His ability to chime into the line is relatively weak, but that comes with time and practice as with any pivot. An extended run can see it as a viable option.

If we brought in (for example) Lineham from Hull, taking pressure off Makinson in kick returns and early drives in sets, would it not be a workable solution?'"


If you watch Sam tomkins in his last season in super league, it was very rare he'd do a kick return, he was using Charnley and Richards when possible and ive noticed a lot of NRL teams also have their fullback pass to their big wingers when possible for kick returns, so yes if we brought Lineham on manu from NZ warriors for another example then that would work.

However, the will be times when these type of wingers won't be available and Tommy is usually dead with the ball on kick returns.

Imo Tommy has become a good super league winger. His finishing is something Imo we need on the wing so I'm not convinced Tommy is the fullback solution long term but 100% the best option we have at the moment.

I know saints have searched the planet for a big fast strong winger so Id imagine both Brown and KC have the similar thought to me that our kick returns ain't good enough from the back three.

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Are we in for Lineham? He looks like he could be a monster given time.

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Quote: Saddened! "How good was it to see a Saints back galloping free tonight? Percival had a fantastic game tonight, some superb centre play to put the kid over in the corner and a constant threat to Widnes. He's got that effortless class elite players always seem to have, he doesn't need to do anything really, drift out, change angle slightly and he's away. Makinson for me was the difference tonight. We'd have lost that game over the past few seasons as we wouldn't have scored enough points. He made three stunning contributions tonight, the try saving tackle, the break for Fleming's try and his solo effort. He's solid under the high ball, can tackle and has pace. If he could work on chiming into the line he'd be an outstanding fullback.

What to say about the rest of them? I thought Savelio was again superb when he was on the field, LMS played well and Mose lead a much improved showing from the props tonight.'"


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I'm not sure I entirely get the fascination with big wingers. Sure, if I had a choice between two equally skilled players of differing heights I'd probably go for the bigger one.

But I'm much more interested in my wingers being technically competent first and foremost - which is a tough enough proposition before adding "big" to the list of adjectives.

I mean, Francis Meli was "big" - but serious limitations in his defence meant that you could never feel even vaguely confident whenever fifth tackle arrived defending the line.

As long as my numbers 2 & 5 can catch high balls, finish chances, tackle effectively and have a bit of pace (without necessarily being "express"icon_wink.gif I'm happy. If they are big as well it's a Brucie Bonus.

I'm far more interested in maxing out the talent at centre than wing.

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