We have no match winners. We have no Kallum Watkins or Albert Kelly etc.. someone with that bit of pace who can turns a game in a split second. And for me them players win you grand finals (Rob Burrow for example). We can grind out results and our forwards can demolish teams but for me top backs win you games.

I assume the LMS try the ref thought it came off a hkr player. In that position he's in a no win situation. He can't hand it up to the video ref to check, as the video ref can't rule out tries for forward passes, so had to play to his gut. It was a poor decision, but I empathise with it more than some of the other decisions made in the game that went against both sides. The final try was a shocker by Wilkin

What if had gone to the video ref who cant act on forward passes, seeing how far forward it was but the video refs not being able to rule on that is ridiculous.

Pretty good away support from your lot considering it was on Sky by the way.

No one is asking you to praise anything. Control can be exerted in all areas of the field not just in the opposition half. We spurned easily as many chances as Saints did. Of course our tries were due to your poor play. They could not have been due to anything else. We have Burns to thank for two of them. An intercepted pass and a woeful attempt at a tackle. That was typical of many Burns performances although he can have many brilliant ones as well. I could say two of your four tries were due our poor defending and the other two to poor ref/linesmen decisions. If you look back you will find that our run of beating you nine time in the last eight years at our home ground has always been due to your poor performance and us not playing well. Funny that isn't it?

Hull KR won, Saints lost that's how it'll show on the record books... HKR deserved their win, even if they should have been down to 12 men on the field. Onwards and Upwards... Wigan on Friday for which a response is required...

For all Saints fans we win as a team, we lose as a team (no scapegoating)! Yes there were poor performances from our 3/4's and FB, but lets support them and re-build their confidence, not knock them for this that and the other... Some fans really grind my gears with the doom and gloom after 1 narrow defeat