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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "What a fantastic prospect it is to have a pack rotation of Richards, Thompson, Greenwood and Savelio - all of them are looking a class above
Agreed pal, huge talents.

Greenwood has done very well. He didn't make many Saints fans' 17's in pre-season but he's trained hard, done everything asked of him and he's been given an opportunity in the back-row. He's physically much more solid now and runs some good lines. Looks like he has decent pace as well and he's opening teams up and is making breaks down the left side.

Interesting selections ahead for KC with regards to the back-row; lots to consider, lots of different attributes and abilities to select from as well. Good issue to have.

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Quote: Saint Simon "Hard to tell given it was a preseason friendly, but he made a mess of the Wigan pack in that game'"


He was showing signs at the start of last year but I know for fact that Brown wanted him to gain strength. His Wining try against Wigan was basically signs of what talent he had.

It's not often I big young lads up as anything can happen. I was one of the few that said the likes of tyrer, Dixon, ashurst etc wouldnt make it at saints when all was saying we had the new Jamie Lyon and Chris joynt.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Again I don't think that was a mistake.

Swift was getting turned around in defence at that time. Had he just left Swift there, more and more teams would have targeted that side and it could have gone from being an issue to being a mental issue. Remember Kevin Penny, a talent going forwards, but left to flounder in defence and had his confidence and abilities blown away, it''s taken the best part of 5 years to turn that around.

Swift was rightly dropped, got time to fix up that part of his game and is now back just as lethal going forwards but more solid in defensive duties.

I'm also very much against having favourites and playing them what ever their performance. Players should always have the pressure to play for the jersey and not feel from day 1 that they are a dead cert to play come what may.'"


I don't think the word dropped is the correct way to describe it. Brown and KC both had talks with Percy when we took him out the other year and explained why he was taken out, what he had to work on and that he wasn't dropped but taken out to fix problems. Both greenwood and swift have had similar chats.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Swift was rightly dropped, got time to fix up that part of his game and is now back just as lethal going forwards but more solid in defensive duties.'"

And Dawson was better in defence?

Swift looks no different in defence this season than he did when he was dropped. Sometimes we just have to go with what we have because what he brings in attack is worth the risk in defence IMO.

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Ok not dropped but given time to work on his game.

Swift is now a lot more assured in defense. And yes Dawson was better in defence than Swift was before he had time to work on the game.

Now I would say Swift is better defensively.

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Quote: SaintsFan "And Dawson was better in defence?

Swift looks no different in defence this season than he did when he was dropped. Sometimes we just have to go with what we have because what he brings in attack is worth the risk in defence IMO.'"


Swifty is 100% better than Dawson so I totally agree. What he brings in attack does outweigh his defensive mistakes.

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